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2023/24 Beto

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dannyboy said:
The service is terrible but Beto and DCL are absolutely tragic on the ball as well. Gone are the days of playing two lads up top and just relying on service from the wide men. Any decent team nowadays has strikers that can contribute in terms of the build up play.
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I'd like to judge, when this can be arranged and delivered please. At the minute they're lost and bewildered in matches where there's nothing for them to go at. Give Young a run at right wing? Danjuma? Keane? anybody. Cut back onto his left every time Harrison aint doing the business. The league has this fiasco understood and found out.
 
Beto made the wrong movement all game, constantly spinning the wrong way to gather/chase through balls. Their CH matched him for pace and he kept on trying to come round the player. That's alright if you've got 2 yards of pace on them, but not when you're matched or slower.
 
dannyboy said:
The service is terrible but Beto and DCL are absolutely tragic on the ball as well. Gone are the days of playing two lads up top and just relying on service from the wide men. Any decent team nowadays has strikers that can contribute in terms of the build up play.
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I think that's harsh on DCL. He has his issues in front of goal but on what we've seen all season his overall contribution and general play on the ball is levels above Beto.
 
Rita_Poon said:
I'd like to judge, when this can be arranged and delivered please. At the minute they're lost and bewildered in matches where there's nothing for them to go at. Give Young a run at right wing? Danjuma? Keane? anybody. Cut back onto his left every time Harrison aint doing the business. The league has this fiasco understood and found out.
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I consistently watch DCL and Beto miss very good chances and struggle to control a ball. They are both in very poor form at the moment. The wingers/creative players are also terrible.

It's what I'd expect from a squad that would probably finish between 13th and 17th in normal circumstances without the point deduction.
 
Tony’s Carp said:
I think that's harsh on DCL. He has his issues in front of goal but on what we've seen all season his overall contribution and general play on the ball is levels above Beto.
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Levels…no way…both as bad/good as each other…..that they both can not even hold the ball up says it all really
 

Tony’s Carp said:
I think that's harsh on DCL. He has his issues in front of goal but on what we've seen all season his overall contribution and general play on the ball is levels above Beto.
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DCL at the top of his game I'd agree but how often has that happened over the past few years? He's been dire for most of the season. His worst form in an Everton shirt.
 
dannyboy said:
I consistently watch DCL and Beto miss very good chances and struggle to control a ball. They are both in very poor form at the moment. The wingers/creative players are also terrible.

It's what I'd expect from a squad that would probably finish between 13th and 17th in normal circumstances without the point deduction.
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They are snatching at tenths of chances because there's so little coming for them. The added pressure of, 'this one in a million shot is the best I'm gonna get today' is weighing them down. The crowd know it, it's all just so predictable. Dyche has to change something, and that something is Harrison. Before it is to late.
 
Rita_Poon said:
They are snatching at tenths of chances because there's so little coming for them. The added pressure of, 'this one in a million shot is the best I'm gonna get today' is weighing them down. The crowd know it, it's all just so predictable. Dyche has to change something, and that something is Harrison. Before it is to late.
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DCL was one on one with the Villa goal keeper the other week and at no point did anyone think he'd slot - including himself. Harrison is really poor but swapping him with Danjuma will change very little.

I just can't look at this team and say some players are being let down by others. They're all really poor with the exception of the centre halves who I think are having a good season.
 
Bell Udinese renegotiate a loan fee and send him back. If we have to take a 10m hit do it, minimise the loss.

Rather take a minimised hit than a 30m one and be lumbered with him.

Can’t control a ball, can’t pass a ball, can’t press, poor in the air. Doesn’t do anything well.

State of our fans giving him a song, he’s absolutely shocking. I’d go as far as saying he’s worse than Cuco Martina..
 
dannyboy said:
DCL was one on one with the Villa goal keeper the other week and at no point did anyone think he'd slot - including himself. Harrison is really poor but swapping him with Danjuma will change very little.

I just can't look at this team and say some players are being let down by others. They're all really poor with the exception of the centre halves who I think are having a good season.
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A right winger needs to be able and prepared to use his right foot. Harrison aint cutting it.
 

Rita_Poon said:
Beto got todays assist. The scorers are having to turn provider to be involved.
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They should be providing though. I've said for a long time one of biggest problems is that we play with strikers who struggle to get involved in the build up play. You look at any decent team around the world and they'll play with someone up top who is comfortable on the ball.

I don't know why you're so desperate to excuse strikers with records like ours have this season. They are just as bad if not worse than those trying to create for them.
 
So you accept the issue is with supply. Sound. Our two strikers are snatching at chances because they're getting so little service. If they were missing 5 golden chances per game I'd have a lot more of an issue. FK's and corners are woeful. Delivery rarely beats the first man. All to predictable.
 

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