TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
Higher quality players in our case are going to be players who aren’t all that good. Buying to develop is the only way, which means quantity matters because development isn’t guaranteed.
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no way we are getting only loans and frees
Get Andy Van Der Meyde a club ambassador role right now and this will sort itself.
As I said, I’m not talking about ready made stars. I’m talking about spending a bit more to get better quality to ‘develop’ and then padding the squad out with people who tide us over and then again going and getting quality the year after etc, rather than buying 12 players for £8m each and them all being crap.
Davideeyore
Player Valuation: £35m
I want them to take bits from other clubs, the good bits of course. Both LFC and MCFC have had previous owners that were poor and their new owners came in and progressed both clubs to new levels. I think it would be hard to emulate I mean City have 99 problems. Actually I think it's 115.
We can't run before we walk so let's just become a professional outfit again after years of amateurish behaviour.
We can't run before we walk so let's just become a professional outfit again after years of amateurish behaviour.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
It’s a balancing act between because spending more really doesn’t guarantee greater success
Sona
Player Valuation: £8m
I’m really torn on this one. I want Dyche out but I don’t want to burden the new manager with this current squad; would much rather the new manager have a totally fresh start in the summer: whole pre-season to work, new squad, new backroom staff, new stadium, etc.
Even if Dyche refused to play those two new players, as long as they fit the profile of the new manager coming in, I’d be fine with it.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
You need to buy the best possible u21 players. Whether thats spending £1mil, £5mil, £10mil, £20mil or £40mil+
There needs to be a development plan for each and these players have to complement others in the team e.g if youre looking for a right winger, make sure that they have the right attributes to feed the centre forward...with DCL it could be crosses and a different centre forward e.g Chermiti may prefer balls to feet.
We have to be after the very best young players on the planet and for the next few seasons as we rebuild they should be enticed to join as theres barely any competition in the squad.
I've mentioned Dibling amd Quenda at right wing. These profiles are the ones we need to aim for who can make an impact on the squad and then make the position their own within 6-12months.
Bring in 3 players like that and you have some hope that the team will grow significantly with them and certain others e.g Ndiaye, Branthwaite and Pickford being consistent.
Thelwell had it right when he said "no more players over 27". Bring in loans and short term signings to fill the squad but spend big on young quality.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
The issue we may have is that we see players signed like O'Brien who some (like me) think we should sell in the next window as they make no impact.
Mate, whilst on the face of it work may have gone on in the academy, the fact of the matter is not in a stellar position compared to other local clubs with Cat 1 status.
In fact, we've been in a steady decline, with the best/better coaches moving due to pay and conditions, and this is from pre-academy right up; same with scouts.
This has impacted on the cohorts coming in, and those who are already in the system aren't getting opportunities comparable with those at other clubs.
Thankfully, there are some decent players at the top-end of the system (legacy players), however the club will need to invest in revitalising the youth options.
And then when Branthwaite leaves in the summer, what then?
The academy has been suffering huge legacy issues from previous regimes but to say there hasn’t been a massive overhaul since Thellwell came in is just false.
change takes time, you can’t expect someone to completely revamp a whole organisation over night.
You're just completely missing the point in context to be honest. My point was that I believed we would have to extend the deals of some of the players who are out of contract and/or fill the squad out with some loans and frees because trying to sign 15 new players would mean we wouldn't be able to get sufficient quality if we were paying money for them all. I'm not advocating going out spending big on stars as I've repeated numerous times. While I agree that spending more doesn't guarantee better quality, it's rather disingenuous to make out like there's no correlation at all. The players who are more highly rated generally cost more, this is a fairly well established fact.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
If we 'need' 9 ins to reach a 23 man squad then we'd be wise to fill out with 4 loans so the funds available can go on e.g 3 or 4 high value targets and 1 or 2 cheaper players.
Tim's tourettes
Player Valuation: £10m
Keep Dyche and buy him Wout Weghorst in January. Hhhoooooffff our way to a dizzy 15th place finish then kiss the ginger brexit voter goodbye. Make it happen Captain Friedkin.