Bill Kenwright

Should Kenwright step down as chairman?

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That proves you didn't actually look into them or hear what they were saying.

They wanted Kenwright to appoint a person who had the specific task of identifying a buyer for the club, someone like Martin Broughton, who would then negotiate the deal for Kenwright to sell his shares and allow the club to move on with new owners who'd been vetted by the aforementioned appointed person.

They also called for fan representation on the board because the communication with the fanbase was appalling. It was called the Fans' Parliament and was an idea a few other clubs were doing at the time (Wolves for one). Basically an elected group of people to represent the different corners of the fanbase (whom the club couldn't veto). Those elected serve for a fixed term before being replaced by another group that were also elected. The meetings between board members and elected would be chaired by a neutral person (a local journalist or politician). The minutes of these meetings should be then released publicly so neither side could be accused of lying or unprofessionalism.

Both ideas were completely dismissed by Kenwright and company.
Kenwright appointing someone to find a buyer to get rid of kenwright. Whichever way you view it, that was their end goal. With the best will in the world, no private company would allow an external group to advise them to bring in someone to sell their organisation. Especially not a group of footy fans.

They didn't want fan representation on the board though, did they? They wanted a "fans' parliament", that was completely unlinked to the club. It would basically be a coalition of supporters groups.
 
Kenwright appointing someone to find a buyer to get rid of kenwright. Whichever way you view it, that was their end goal. With the best will in the world, no private company would allow an external group to advise them to bring in someone to sell their organisation. Especially not a group of footy fans.

They didn't want fan representation on the board though, did they? They wanted a "fans' parliament", that was completely unlinked to the club. It would basically be a coalition of supporters groups.

Kenwright was constantly saying for years he'd leave if he could only find someone to take over the club and kick us on. Well okay, here's a way you can probably do just that. Wait, what? You actually don't want to leave? Why keep saying you would then?

What's wrong with a fans' parliament? It's MEANT to be unlinked to the club, therefore free of being controlled and not just a PR exercise. And people elected only served a fixed term before being replaced, therefore everyone from all corners would get a go at it over time. That's a bad thing?!

I give up.
 
Kenwright was constantly saying for years he'd leave if he could only find someone to take over the club and kick us on. Well okay, here's a way you can probably do just that. Wait, what? You actually don't want to leave? Why keep saying you would then?

What's wrong with a fans' parliament? It's MEANT to be unlinked to the club, therefore free of influence and not a PR exercise. And people elected only served a fixed term before being replaced, therefore everyone from all corners would get a go at it over time. That's a bad thing?!

I give up.
I know it's hard seeing our club go down in flames, but we are fans and have no real right to dictate how a private organisation is run. Most clubs pay lip service to their fans as they are a big source of income, although that is being less important with TV rights and commercial deals. You don't have a right to tell the record label of your favourite artist how they should record their next album. It's effectively the same.

Regarding a fan group with no link to the club. They would have no authority either. They would become a sycophantic rabble of self-important weirdos. Exactly what we all think kenwright is. Case in point is the Twitter spaces that cropped up around the 27 for 27 campaign. Without the comedy value of Elton welsby, they were thoroughly embarrassing and showed exactly why it wouldn't work.
 

Kenwright was constantly saying for years he'd leave if he could only find someone to take over the club and kick us on. Well okay, here's a way you can probably do just that. Wait, what? You actually don't want to leave? Why keep saying you would then?

His "24/7 search for investment" as he called it was exactly that.

He had no intention in easing his white knuckle grip of power. He wanted a useful idiot to fund his hobby whilst he took all the glory when trophies arrived

He eventually found a useful idiot. I'm partially pleased it's blown up in his face.

He's an absolute self-serving scumbag.

"but the blue union were melts" says someone else.

As I have said plenty of times. Us Evertonians absolutely have the club (and board) we deserve.
 
From the outside we're a team 'on paper' that's at best top half at worse midtable. We seemingly an owner whose invested, a new ground on the horizon, & passionate supporters. Its a 'good challenge' all the lads need is confidence, new system, new faces, any other cliche.

Few weeks in it then becomes apparent we're a squad of unprofessional cowards alongside a completely dysfunctional boardroom

Least we forgot 'what would Everton do'- It's all about image.
Keeping up the semblance that everything's smelling of roses, snippets of 'good news', spineless club 'ambassadors', all whilst overseeing a complete mismanagement of the club top to bottom.

In Lampard's case Palace seemed like final straw*, but ultimately he can do very little to 'fix' the issues - they're deep rooted. Any manager needs time to literally 'rip it up', until they're given time the same cowards will repeat the cycle of downing tools when they see fit.
The owner will continue to appease them [and at times the fans] basically vindicating himself and the squad from direct blame.

No one is expecting people to call out there boss, but ultimately being a nodding dog has merely placated the issues.
Safe to say the deep set malaise this club has become set it before Moshiri [we didn't push on, we've sat back content with 'best of rest' whilst others caught and overtook] its only been compounded by him.

Ran like a circus, perform like a circus
To reaffirm a point, no manager fixes us, stop giving excuses for the systemic failings.

*'Play The Kids' - The only time we've really fast-tracked youth into the first team was under Roberto's 1st season. The environment was positive, it was an easy choice to make. Since then its been multiple years, multiple managers, multiple directions the academy has been pushed/pulled in, the kids themselves don't really stand a chance.
 
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From the outside we're a team 'on paper' that's at best top half at worse midtable. We seemingly an owner whose invested, a new ground on the horizon, & passionate supporters. Its a 'good challenge' all the lads need is confidence, new system, new faces, any other cliche.

Few weeks in it then becomes apparent we're a squad of unprofessional cowards alongside a completely dysfunctional boardroom

Least we forgot 'what would Everton do'- It's all about image.
Keeping up the semblance that everything's smelling of roses, snippets of 'good news', spineless club 'ambassadors', all whilst overseeing a complete mismanagement of the club top to bottom.

In Lampard's case Palace seemed like final straw*, but ultimately he can do very little to 'fix' the issues - they're deep rooted. Any manager needs time to literally 'rip it up', until they're given time the same cowards will repeat the cycle of downing tools when they see fit.
The owner will continue to appease them [and at times the fans] basically vindicating himself and the squad from direct blame.

No one is expecting people to call out there boss, but ultimately being a nodding dog has merely placated the issues.
Safe to say the deep set malaise this club has become set it before Moshiri [we didn't push on, we've sat back content with 'best of rest' whilst others caught and overtook] its only been compounded by him.

Ran like a circus, perform like a circus
To reaffirm a point, no manager fixes us, stop giving excuses for the systemic failings.

*'Play The Kids' - The only time we've really fast-tracked youth into the first team was under Roberto's 1st season. The environment was positive, it was an easy choice to make. Since then its been multiple years, multiple managers, multiple directions the academy has been pushed/pulled in, the kids themselves don't really stand a chance.
Our academy should close.

I produces next to nothing in terms of first team ready players OR generate a revenue to cover its own costs.

"What about Gordon? He's maybe player of the season."

If he's the measure we're truely done for.

Effort? 10/10.

End product? 5/10.

He managed to boot ANOTHER corner straight out again yesterday. That's the 5th I can remember this season. We put him on a pedestal because of effort alone.

Our academy is just there as job creation. The staff solidify the chairmans position. More 'useful idiots' to wave the BK banner when the natives get restless.
 
His "24/7 search for investment" as he called it was exactly that.

He had no intention in easing his white knuckle grip of power. He wanted a useful idiot to fund his hobby whilst he took all the glory when trophies arrived

He eventually found a useful idiot. I'm partially pleased it's blown up in his face.

He's an absolute self-serving scumbag.

"but the blue union were melts" says someone else.

As I have said plenty of times. Us Evertonians absolutely have the club (and board) we deserve.
Really good ''due diligence''

It's our fault really. Shouldn't have got excited about Moshiri initially as we had expected an incompetent owner to be able to do competent due diligence.
 

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His legacy is a lost generation of Everton fans.

Why would any kid want to support this club these days? Why would any parent put their kid through this misery? Where is the next generation of supporters coming from?

Young lads in the city are not going to support Everton when there is a CL club on their doorstep. That's the reality. If we go down we are finished as a club. He turned us from a big player in English football to an utter irrelevance and a national laughing stock. If he had any respect for the club or the fans, he would be apologising and tendering his resignation. Instead we got patronising drivel about good times.
 
His legacy is a lost generation of Everton fans.

Why would any kid want to support this club these days? Why would any parent put their kid through this misery? Where is the next generation of supporters coming from?

Young lads in the city are not going to support Everton when there is a CL club on their doorstep. That's the reality. If we go down we are finished as a club. He turned us from a big player in English football to an utter irrelevance and a national laughing stock. If he had any respect for the club or the fans, he would be apologising and tendering his resignation. Instead we got patronising drivel about good times.
Will he be at Goodison at the game that would seal our relegation, or at the home game after we have been sent packing?
 
Will he be at Goodison at the game that would seal our relegation, or at the home game after we have been sent packing?
I think he will. He's never hidden in the past. Whether that's through bravery or stupidity is up for debate, but he will be there....

Moshiri on the other hand....
 
I think he will. He's never hidden in the past. Whether that's through bravery or stupidity is up for debate, but he will be there....

Moshiri on the other hand....
I'm thinking that's the scenario that we will see. Mind you he'll have to see if that Popemobile is still knocking about in order to get to and from the ground in one piece.
 

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