Bill Kenwright

[Tom Hughes]

He acquired it for a pittance because it was a worthless mess when he bought it, unlike when he sold it, try and name your preferred buyer back then? Just try, you can't, because nobody would of touched us.

So you can't quote any figures? You don't know how much he has made from the club, yet seemed bullish in your assertions that he hadn't earned more than certain players?

Firstly, he was on the board before he acquired the club (with a lot of help from his friends)..... so he was part of the problem at that time. His personal wealth was nowhere near the value of the shareholding that he eventually acquired, yet mysteriously this has never been questioned. Did he and his old pals act carpet bag the club to acquire those shares? Our parlous financial performance in an era when all of our peers were first awash with TV money and building new stands and whole stadia and still managing to spend more on players would suggest that this is more than a firm possibility. "Other operating costs" anyone?

He then backstabbed the people who helped him take-over in the first place, killing the kings dock in the process and allowed his new retail led (silent) partners in to keep him afloat and try to pack us off to a shopping mall in kirkby. Thankfully failing due abject ineptitude once again.

He added no value beyond the increased TV money. Our commercial and matchday incomes had stagnated and were a fraction of all of our peer group who had left us behind with smaller clubs overtaking us. Our debts had risen massively and our property assets had vanished.... we couldn't even undertake a development in the Park end carpark because we no longer owned it fully. We'd sold off the old training ground to build the new one.... then had to sell that to the council.

 

[4737carlin]

So you can't quote any figures? You don't know how much he has made from the club, yet seemed bullish in your assertions that he hadn't earned more than certain players?

How long has he been on the board, were people saying 33 years? and he made what, well above Joey says 47m, is that right? over that length of time work out what that is per year, then look at what people have walked away with recently for short periods of time.
The money he made he made it because he bought a club that anyone could of bought and saved but no one other person was interested

 

[paultheblue]

How long has he been on the board, were people saying 33 years? and he made what, well above Joey says 47m, is that right? over that length of time work out what that is per year, then look at what people have walked away with recently for short periods of time.
The money he made he made it because he bought a club that anyone could of bought and saved but no one other person was interested

I don't know what we would have done without him, we could of been in a right mess.

 

[joey_macmo]

How long has he been on the board, were people saying 33 years? and he made what, well above Joey says 47m, is that right? over that length of time work out what that is per year, then look at what people have walked away with recently for short periods of time.
The money he made he made it because he bought a club that anyone could of bought and saved but no one other person was interested

Still can’t name anybody no?

 

[4737carlin]

Still can’t name anybody no?

Yeah but you point was very silly and unprofessional, there is no issues with him making that much money over a lengthy period of time, he earnt it, but per annum the likes of Koeman did walk away with a lot of money, even Benitez just now, all on the watch of Moshiri in very short apaces of time for no return, per annum (which is what people who know what they are talking about wll look at) Bill hasnt made that much money apart from what he earnt, there is nothing wrong with making money if you have done something to justify it

 

[nevsonlymate]

Yeah but you point was very silly and unprofessional, there is no issues with him making that much money over a lengthy period of time, he earnt it, but per annum the likes of Koeman did walk away with a lot of money, even Benitez just now, all on the watch of Moshiri in very short apaces of time for no return, per annum (which is what people who know what they are talking about wll look at) Bill hasnt made that much money apart from what he earnt, there is nothing wrong with making money if you have done something to justify it

Please explain how he has earned that amount of money, Managers are mostly fly by nights who don't give a crap about the club they are at its just a wage and massive pay off when they inevitably get sacked and most probably start counting the days after the first day for the riches they get but he is supposed to be our guardian, true blue etc , he should hang his head in shame with the others for where we are

 

[Tom Hughes]

How long has he been on the board, were people saying 33 years? and he made what, well above Joey says 47m, is that right? over that length of time work out what that is per year, then look at what people have walked away with recently for short periods of time.
The money he made he made it because he bought a club that anyone could of bought and saved but no one other person was interested

He didn't acquire his whole shareholding 33yrs ago. He acquired most of it after the take over, paid for by his pals who were then paid off by his new pals. He somehow ended up with more shares than he could've ever afforded. In the process we were denied a true state of the art stadium actually in the city centre. That failure cost the club 20 years of increased matchday and other income, and has now left us with a further £500m bill to get somewhere close to a position we could've had almost 2 decades ago. It meant we operated at a zero net spend for over a decade under Moyes who had to continually sell to buy. Given that it is the board's job to support the manager with funding and to improve infrastructure by investment...... what did BK actually achieve? He simply rode increased TV money wave reaped all the benefits and added no value whatsoever. Our cat could've been chairman and achieved the same. The same and continued vacuous chairmanship has seen us squander a fortune and potentially on the verge of collapse. Yet you think he deserves to make multiples of that made by his theatre career, while presiding over decades of managed decline and abject failure. Are you Bill Kenwright?

 

[4737carlin]

Please explain how he has earned that amount of money, Managers are mostly fly by nights who don't give a crap about the club they are at its just a wage and massive pay off when they inevitably get sacked and most probably start counting the days after the first day for the riches they get but he is supposed to be our guardian, true blue etc , he should hang his head in shame with the others for where we are

Don't ge silly, he bought a worthless business that was doing nothing but head towards either administration or relegation, turned it into one that enjoyed European football, only for the idiot to followed him to destroy the stable platform he passed onto him.

 

[nevsonlymate]

Don't ge silly, he bought a worthless business that was doing nothing but head towards either administration or relegation, turned it into one that enjoyed European football, only for the idiot to followed him to destroy the stable platform he passed onto him.

You are definitely a WUM if you believe that you do know were we are and could be heading in the next few months , you are either related or the hospital give you half an hour to play with a computer

 

[4737carlin]

You are definitely a WUM if you believe that you do know were we are and could be heading in the next few months , you are either related or the hospital give you half an hour to play with a computer

Yeah we're getting relegated, have no doubts about it, but that's all on Moshiri, this is the Kenwright thread, when he owned the club we were safe as houses, that's an undeniable fact.

 

[nevsonlymate]

Yeah we're getting relegated, have no doubts about it, but that's all on Moshiri, this is the Kenwright thread, when he owned the club we were safe as houses, that's an undeniable fact.

Its on all their heads no one gets away with this , their all on the board they all have inputs on all running decisions, they all can take the blame , him included

 

[Carlito]

He didn't acquire his whole shareholding 33yrs ago. He acquired most of it after the take over, paid for by his pals who were then paid off by his new pals. He somehow ended up with more shares than he could've ever afforded. In the process we were denied a true state of the art stadium actually in the city centre. That failure cost the club 20 years of increased matchday and other income, and has now left us with a further £500m bill to get somewhere close to a position we could've had almost 2 decades ago. It meant we operated at a zero net spend for over a decade under Moyes who had to continually sell to buy. Given that it is the board's job to support the manager with funding and to improve infrastructure by investment...... what did BK actually achieve? He simply rode increased TV money wave reaped all the benefits and added no value whatsoever. Our cat could've been chairman and achieved the same. The same and continued vacuous chairmanship has seen us squander a fortune and potentially on the verge of collapse. Yet you think he deserves to make multiples of that made by his theatre career, while presiding over decades of managed decline and abject failure. Are you Bill Kenwright?

He won't reply to anything that exposes this silly wind-up gimmick he's doing.

To be fair to him, he had me going for ages with it.

 

[Tom Hughes]

Yeah we're getting relegated, have no doubts about it, but that's all on Moshiri, this is the Kenwright thread, when he owned the club we were safe as houses, that's an undeniable fact.

He's still the chairman. He literally runs the club. Moshiri did what he was asked to do.... he came in and invested. He paid off the massive debts accrued under BK and Co, gave the club money to spend on players and started to pay for the new stadium that the old banger of a club he inherited had no chance of building..... because it had been completely run into the ground under an unsustainable model for 2 decades. By which time we'd been overtaken on every metric. Moyes gave the team stability despite BK and not because of him, within 2 yrs of him departing that fragile stability was gone and the team has declined..... financially we had become a complete weakling. Moshiri's biggest mistake is that he left the same incumbents in charge of his cheque book.... they acted like nomark lotto winners and blew the lot on crap.

 

[Tom Hughes]

He won't reply to anything that exposes this silly wind-up gimmick he's doing.

To be fair to him, he had me going for ages with it.

Tbh.... I'd stopped replying because he's obviously a wind up merchant but given our current predicament got drawn back in at a moment of weakness. Thanks for reminding me...

 

[4737carlin]

He's still the chairman. He literally runs the club. Moshiri did what he was asked to do.... he came in and invested. He paid off the massive debts accrued under BK and Co, gave the club money to spend on players and started to pay for the new stadium that the old banger of a club he inherited had no chance of building..... because it had been completely run into the ground under a completely unsustainable model for 2 decades. By which time we'd been overtaken on every metric. Moyes gave the team stability despite BK and not because of him, within 2 yrs of him departing that fragile stability was gone and the team has declined..... financially we had become a complete weakling. Moshiri's biggest mistake is that he left the same incumbents in charge of his cheque book.... they acted like nomark lotto winners and blew the lot on crap.

Some nonsense that, Bill Kenright did what we hoped he would do, he bough a club in total crisis and stabilized it, you cant give all the credit to Moyes as some owners would of sacked him, like the current idiot.

"Moyes gave the team stability despite BK and not because of him, within 2 yrs of him departing that fragile stability" haha within 2 years haha you do know that in the 2015/16 season we got to both semi finals? we had players like Baines, Lukaku, Stones, Pienar, peak Jags, peak Coleman? declined haha have you seen us now? obviously i know most were bought by Moyes but you cant say we had declined over the 2 years post Moyes.
Everton was stable with high ambitions right until the moment Moshiri turned up