Bill Kenwright

[Kirkdale]

Well, to be fair, I can only speak as I find - I met him, spoke at length with him and I found him be seemingly a very genuine guy with an abiding love for the club.

Now, of course, he could have been a lying charlatan who completely fooled me, or things might have changed in the 27 or so years since that particular meeting. Either way, I can only relate the impression I got first hand...

So because he was nice and polite in person 27 years ago let's leave him in a job he is utterly inept at.

It's the "gets the club" disease which has been killing us for so long.

 

[mahermi1]

I’m sure Bill is lovely if you happen to be in tune to his fantasy land of being Everton Football Club’s saviour. I’m not so sure that he remains that way if you have the temerity to suggest otherwise, that he isn’t the best thing since sliced bread, and that his ownership of Everton has actually done far more harm than good.

Spot on.

 

[roy vernon]

You can neither trust nor cure a serial liar. Kenwright is a serial liar, when you add in the fact that he only wants sycophants and people who blow smoke up his fat backside working for him, it is no mystery why we are such a badly run club. As owner, he had to sell everything that wasn't nailed down to keep the club out of administration. He then found his ideal investor, somebody who would pump money in while allowing Kenwright to continue running the club. That has gone well, after hundreds of millions poured into the club we are at death's door, unable to spend the money we need to, because Kenwright's running of the club has us at loggerheads with the premier league financial regulations.

So, with the pressure on and unrest growing at an alarming rate, what does our serial liar come up with to get the media onside? Headlock gate, the liar resorting to yet more lies.

 

[Stuartisitc1878]

You can neither trust nor cure a serial liar. Kenwright is a serial liar, when you add in the fact that he only wants sycophants and people who blow smoke up his fat backside working for him, it is no mystery why we are such a badly run club. As owner, he had to sell everything that wasn't nailed down to keep the club out of administration. He then found his ideal investor, somebody who would pump money in while allowing Kenwright to continue running the club. That has gone well, after hundreds of millions poured into the club we are at death's door, unable to spend the money we need to, because Kenwright's running of the club has us at loggerheads with the premier league financial regulations.

So, with the pressure on and unrest growing at an alarming rate, what does our serial liar come up with to get the media onside? Headlock gate, the liar resorting to yet more lies.

he's an ego-maniac. I have a friend who has worked closely with one of his Theatres and he says he's exactly the same with that too. Despite being over the hill and out of touch - He can't let go. He has to be front and centre and seen as the saviour, and like all narcissists he doesn't see or accept the mistakes he makes! When he comes out and says some BS like "You've had good times" he believes it, he genuinely believes that a bit of stability and the occasional European spot is good times - is success, and he's delivered that success. What more do we want?
And I can guarantee you he'll be loving the criticism Moshiri gets too because it's not him. He's already got his mates in the media spinning the "the board don't make the decisions" narrative exonerating him of any responsibility.
The fact he wanted to return to Goodison recently as a show leadership tells you everything you need to know about the man. He wants to makes the story about him, he knows the cameras will be on him.. poor old Bill sat alone in the box whilst the angry mob hurl abuse at him! the passionate chairman who's willing to put his personal safety on the line to support his beloved blues and set an example.

The man needs people around him strong enough to advise him properly and save him from his ego. The guys in his 70's, he's not a well man and regardless of whether i like him or not i don't want to see anyone getting abuse, certainly not a old man in ill health. He doesn't need it any more. Walk away, take some honorary title, just be a fan and enjoy a very quiet retirement.

 

[blueconverse]

Please tell me he will do a lap of honour before he leaves. I need to see it

 

[Simon Buttle]

Please tell me he will do a lap of honour before he leaves. I need to see it

Yeah I doubt it tbh, it would be like something out of The Day of The Jackal.

 

[Ferguson1878]

I'll never slag Kenwright off. I remember one night in Autumn 1995 when I was working in Stockport, and I went along to the small Garrick Theatre near where I was working to check out a rock musical about the whole Arthurian legend thing - which sounds cheesy, but was alright in its own way. Anyhow, Kenwright was there, checking it out in case it was worth looking at a West End treatment (it wasn't!), and I got talking to him about the recent cup final etc. I liked him, and when I took my seat it turned out by sheer coincidence that he was sat next to me, so I ended up taking to him quite a bit.

No matter whatever else you could say about him, the impression I took away was of a genuine man who absolutely loved all things EFC. I was in no doubt that had he not been on the board he would have been in the ground anyway.

I don't care about winning things with a bunch of hired hands and mercenaries, I'll leave that to the shower across the park. I want us to win things, of course - but I will never, ever criticise someone, in these days of the soulless and eviscerated game we see so much, who has his heart and soul invested in the club and who wants that success as much as the fans do.

Everton, that. And I'm proud to stand by that belief.

is this a joke ?

he's an ego-maniac. I have a friend who has worked closely with one of his Theatres and he says he's exactly the same with that too. Despite being over the hill and out of touch - He can't let go. He has to be front and centre and seen as the saviour, and like all narcissists he doesn't see or accept the mistakes he makes! When he comes out and says some BS like "You've had good times" he believes it, he genuinely believes that a bit of stability and the occasional European spot is good times - is success, and he's delivered that success. What more do we want?
And I can guarantee you he'll be loving the criticism Moshiri gets too because it's not him. He's already got his mates in the media spinning the "the board don't make the decisions" narrative exonerating him of any responsibility.
The fact he wanted to return to Goodison recently as a show leadership tells you everything you need to know about the man. He wants to makes the story about him, he knows the cameras will be on him.. poor old Bill sat alone in the box whilst the angry mob hurl abuse at him! the passionate chairman who's willing to put his personal safety on the line to support his beloved blues and set an example.

The man needs people around him strong enough to advise him properly and save him from his ego. The guys in his 70's, he's not a well man and regardless of whether i like him or not i don't want to see anyone getting abuse, certainly not a old man in ill health. He doesn't need it any more. Walk away, take some honorary title, just be a fan and enjoy a very quiet retirement.

he shouldn’t be able to take any honorary title he shouldn’t even be able to show his face at goodison again wether we stay up or not , he’s one of the worst things to happen to our club and should be treated like it

 

[tommye]

Well, to be fair, I can only speak as I find - I met him, spoke at length with him and I found him be seemingly a very genuine guy with an abiding love for the club.

Now, of course, he could have been a lying charlatan who completely fooled me, or things might have changed in the 27 or so years since that particular meeting. Either way, I can only relate the impression I got first hand...

That would be around the time he destroyed the Liverpool Playhouse Theatre and made all the staff redundant.


See if you can find anything from them saying how nice a man he was way back then.

 

[4737carlin]

I’m sure Bill is lovely if you happen to be in tune to his fantasy land of being Everton Football Club’s saviour. I’m not so sure that he remains that way if you have the temerity to suggest otherwise, that he isn’t the best thing since sliced bread, and that his ownership of Everton has actually done far more harm than good.

You know he hasnt owned Everton for seven years right?

 

[4737carlin]

You can be a good person and not good at your job though. You can love the club but not be a good chairman. These things aren't mutually exclusive.

The club has gone back hugely while he has been owner or chairman. For me that's the only thing that matters. He needs to let someone else try to move the club forward.

He kind of did that by selling it to Moshiri, who took it backwards at a rapid rate

 

[Walken]

First impressions can be so deceiving....

He's a slimey salesman, that's the devious crap he is good at

 

[Simon Buttle]

He kind of did that by selling it to Moshiri, who took it backwards at a rapid rate

I'm not saying you are wrong but what would he have done without Moshiri though? Green needed his money back asap and Kenwright didn't have it, Moshiri was the only person interested who would let him stay onboard and who also was prepared to clear the debt that Kenwright had racked up due to having no money.

 

[4737carlin]

I'm not saying you are wrong but what would he have done without Moshiri though? Green needed his money back asap and Kenwright didn't have it, Moshiri was the only person interested who would let him stay onboard and who also was prepared to clear the debt that Kenwright had racked up due to having no money.

Yeah it was just all bad timing really, whats worrying me is I fear Moshiri is far less likely to find a full buyer now because of the damage he has done, its a shame Usmanov dosent need money ASAP

 

[Simon Buttle]

Yeah it was just all bad timing really, whats worrying me is I fear Moshiri is far less likely to find a full buyer now because of the damage he has done, its a shame Usmanov dosent need money ASAP

There is a lot of stuff this morning about the MSP thing being very close so we will have to see what happens with that. I'm quite happy with their minority stake tbh as it's knowledge we really want from them on how to actually run a proper sports business.

 

[4737carlin]

There is a lot of stuff this morning about the MSP thing being very close so we will have to see what happens with that. I'm quite happy with their minority stake tbh as it's knowledge we really want from them on how to actually run a proper sports business.

Yeah but minority still lives Farhad in charge, we need him removed altogether, he dosent seem to be the type who will stay in the background, he acts alone too much, its a good start though if we do get MSP in but only once Moshiri has fully gone can we relax