Bill Kenwright

[Toffeepot]

At the fans request? Please point me in the direction of any posts you made prior to the sale asking Bill to NOT sell.

I don't think this makes the point you want it to... Wanting Bill to sell says more about Bill than Moshiri

 

[UltraVires]

It's an interesting point mate, but the mess Moshiri has made of his ownership, and the damage he has done to Everton runs a lot deeper then Bill's failings of only having us playing in Europe on several occasions, never facing relegation which failing to win an actual trophy, and never having FFP restrictions.
Bill was a good owner who never damaged us, only stabilised us, he took over a rotting club and turned it around and built a platform for his successor to build on, only for that man to take us to a place even worse then were it was when Bill bought it.

I get your point but I don’t think you can say Bill was a good owner just because of what Farhad has done with it since.

For that reason there is no need to apologise to Bill for anything which is what the topic is about.

Bill and Farhad were and are poor owners but Farhad has more money and so his failings are magnified because of that.

It’s similar to how Everton and Man Utd are in very similar situations in that we have had a team full of other managers players with no real idea what to do since a talisman manager left but the difference is that United are on a much bigger scale than us financially in terms of revenues

 

[Tom Hughes]

But he didnt, thats a pure fact, if you were around before he bought the club and see the mess it was in and compare it to the club that he sold to Moshiri you would know this

The club had far more debt when he sold than what he inherited and was still in the same ground.... when all other clubs had massively improved their infrastructure (some twice) and increased matchday and commercial income.... we did neither. What "relative" success there was, was due to Moyes only. Hus job was to increase funding for the team and address the stadium problem. He did neither (with a zero net spend for the bulk of his tenure) and in the process scuppered the Kings Dock on his own. They're the real facts.

 

[MikeH72]

Yeah but that happened when Sir Philip Carter was chairmen, not Kenwright, also to note the sale of Rooney was also while Carter was chairmen, something else people try to pin on Bill, although Carter gets a pass and should always be respected because of the great work he did in the 80s

So are we now crediting Carter with the appointment of Moyes rather than Bill?

 

[Ron manager]

I think his production of "12 angry men" should provide him some slack. Saw it at the Malvern Theatre - very good you know.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

It's an interesting point mate, but the mess Moshiri has made of his ownership, and the damage he has done to Everton runs a lot deeper then Bill's failings of only having us playing in Europe on several occasions, never facing relegation which failing to win an actual trophy, and never having FFP restrictions.
Bill was a good owner who never damaged us, only stabilised us, he took over a rotting club and turned it around and built a platform for his successor to build on, only for that man to take us to a place even worse then were it was when Bill bought it.

He did damage us!!!!!!!!!! He turned one of the biggest clubs in (when Bill joined the board, we had more league titles than both Manchester United and Arsenal) english football, into a modern day premier league version of the 1967-2001 era Coventry City.

Always in the top flight, but never doing anything of any relevance whatsoever. Bill Kenwright has presided over the least successful period of this clubs proud history.

 

[4737carlin]

So are we now crediting Carter with the appointment of Moyes rather than Bill?

No Bill has always taken a lot of credit for Moyes because he wasn't his original choice, he listened, he took advice, something Moshiri only did from people who had zero interest in Everton.

 

[blue61]

I think his production of "12 angry men" should provide him some slack. Saw it at the Malvern Theatre - very good you know.

Did they change the 'accused of stabbing' charge to 'where's the arteta money?'

 

[4737carlin]

I think his production of "12 angry men" should provide him some slack. Saw it at the Malvern Theatre - very good you know.

I feel like Henry Fonda at times in this thread, slowly people are seeing I'm right!!!!

 

[Lawrence]

Sadly, people generally think you are a wind-up merchant. This great club lost its relevance under Kenwright. Good times to me mean serious challenges to win the league and cup finals. Add to that stadium change. I don't think any other ground has stood still like Goodison. Blue Bill as a good seat and a quality lounge for his cronies. Others sit on 50-year-old pieces of wood and piss in antiquated bogs.

 

[BullensRoad]

Sadly, people generally think you are a wind-up merchant. This great club lost its relevance under Kenwright. Good times to me mean serious challenges to win the league and cup finals. Add to that stadium change. I don't think any other ground has stood still like Goodison. Blue Bill as a good seat and a quality lounge for his cronies. Others sit on 50-year-old pieces of wood and piss in antiquated bogs.

The 90's when the prem money came in saw few teams expand / improve their stadia, eg: Old Trafford, The Pit, Highbury.

What did we do with the influx of money?

 

[roy vernon]

Kenwright's unique talent is that he can look you straight in the eye, lie to you and not turn a hair. Yes I know that many people can do that, but, Kenwright can do it to the same audience over and over again and they still believe him. That in itself is no small talent.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

Kenwright joined the board of directors in late 1989, so in the era post our 1987 league title win, the only seasons he's had no involvement in the club was 1987/1988 and 1988/1989.

 

[Dymak]

He did damage us!!!!!!!!!! He turned one of the biggest clubs in (when Bill joined the board, we had more league titles than both Manchester United and Arsenal) english football, into a modern day premier league version of the 1967-2001 era Coventry City.

Always in the top flight, but never doing anything of any relevance whatsoever. Bill Kenwright has presided over the least successful period of this clubs proud history.

Part of the Kirkby propaganda was to put Coventry’s crap new stadium on a pedestal, and then argue that Everton ought to be emulating Coventry’s move into a crap new stadium.

Our marketing under Kenwright was incredibly weird. The club was talked down all the time, with us being portrayed as a desperate quaint entity living in a crumbling shed of a death trap stadium that is ecstatic with 10th place finishes. It was a marketing ploy by Kenwright to keep expectations low imo, and it worked very well, for him.

 

[Goat]

Kenwright joined the board of directors in late 1989, so in the era post our 1987 league title win, the only seasons he's had no involvement in the club was 1987/1988 and 1988/1989.

So he joined the Board right at the end of our glory years and has been there since we have been utter rubbish.

Weird that.