If you even argue the fact Bill ran this club to near ruin people will always say, you had relative success finishing inside the top six for many years and enjoyed European nights, I will always attribute that to David Moyes himself he was the reason for those successes not Bill, the other point you make is true it just covered up the cracks within the football club, but we have had 'good times' isn't that right we should be grateful for this and not want a better Everton especially one that should live by it's motto, our motto should always be our standard.