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Walken said:
not that he has any great wins, but you could argue bellews opponents at light heavy where better than cleverlys after the first fight fight, i'd take chilemba and miranda over hawk and karpency, not that it makes bellew favourite as their own first fight must be considered, but I'm not sure cleverly has fought the better opponents in other fights
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Here, big Tommy the Karp decisioned big bad Chad the other month hahahahaha! Crazy how downhill Dawson has gone. Stevenson and Ward effectively ended his career to the point where he can't even beat journeymen lol
 
Walken said:
yeah he's well and truly done, I never thought all that much of chad, but he's a shadow after stevenson and ward
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Yeah, I think he has the ability, just not the mentality. Always came across as a bit too timid and lacked the confidence needed for a boxer.

I remember a while back, Floyd Mayweather saying he was one of the most talented fighters he'd ever seen. Weird seeing him now.
 

Walken said:
hasn't he signed a tv deal with hbo as well?
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I dont know, but they were going through a list of yanks they thought he would be fighting next, seemed to be sure which way he was going, cant see any of the current crop beating him to be honest on that form.
just found this on sb boxing
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the winner tonight is much better going the Drozd (wbc) route anyway, Bellew is already no. 4.

tbh they should be able to pick and choose as there isn't much money at cruiser atm
 
Walken said:
Off the top of my head, Huck vs aslan, huck vs lebedev, macklijn vs sturm was pretty bad, the refereeing in every kiltscko fight. But we are talking about reputations here, I also had smith down by a few though the cards were wide, but if we can't complain about that then your examples don't quite stand up, Groves vs froch was stopped early, but was groves robbed of certain victory? not for me, beltran was poor, no doubt, ,aciel threw the fight away by punching in flashy bunches then allowing rose back into the fight, I still had Maciel up, but like I said the UK is not perfect and there are too many home town decisions, but to suggest the UK had the worst reputation in world boxing is hyperbole and complete nonsense, the US has more dodgy decisions, and in the amateur world the UK still has one of the better reputations in comparison to other countries in europe like the old eastern block nations.
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You're entitled to your opinion of course, but I stand by my opinion that the UK has the worst reputation in the sport right now for terrible officiating, especially on Matchroom shows. There's always at least one controversial decision or stoppage on their shows.

Many fighters from abroad won't even come over here anymore to defend their titles anymore because they fear getting shafted. Abril is coming over for Crolla but he's the first since Lucien Bute came over for Froch. Our reputation has been soured all because of Sky and Matchroom's dodgy BS. They absolutely play a part in the controversies, Hearn is a liar when he makes out it's nothing to do with them. Matchroom pay for the referee and judges hotel bills, that's a fact.
 
PaulieMc said:
You're entitled to your opinion of course, but I stand by my opinion that the UK has the worst reputation in the sport right now for terrible officiating, especially on Matchroom shows. There's always at least one controversial decision or stoppage on their shows.

Many fighters from abroad won't even come over here anymore to defend their titles anymore because they fear getting shafted. Abril is coming over for Crolla but he's the first since Lucien Bute came over for Froch. Our reputation has been soured all because of Sky and Matchroom's dodgy BS. They absolutely play a part in the controversies, Hearn is a liar when he makes out it's nothing to do with them. Matchroom pay for the referee and judges hotel bills, that's a fact.
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I won't keep arguing the point, but it simply doesn't have the worst reputation in the world, certainly not in my experience or the people i talk to
 


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