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Match Thread Brentford v Everton - Preview, Match Report and 3-day MotM Poll
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Old Blue 2
Player Valuation: £35m
What we saw at Goodison last week was Everton up against one of the best teams in Europe at the moment. A team that should really have won the title last season. A team that is going to mallet a lot of teams this season. There was no disgrace holding them to 0-1 last week. Too many doom-and-gloom merchants on here most of the time...
Tennessee Blue Mike
Player Valuation: £50m
Tarks was immense. Need to keep the momentum going against Luton. Garner and Doucoure were putting in a shift it all worked.
AndyC
Player Valuation: £70m
Sorry mate but, I have to disagree.
There is no doubt that Arsenal are a very good team and will give most other clubs more than a game however, for a home team to literally lie down and accept that the opposition is way too good, from the first whistle is unacceptable.
Arsenal are gifted and talented but, they showed many times last week that they are physically soft - how many times did their players go down clutching their faces, feigning injury ?
And Gabriel, for my money, is one of the worst in the PL for doing it. Everton could and probably should have adopted a much more physical and robust game plan - if the opposition has a weakness, it's up to us to capitalise upon it. I'm not suggesting dirty play, far from it, just some good 'old fashioned, into 'em' tactics - the type of play that Dyche and Burnley were not afraid to employ.
Last week, we allowed them to stroll around... no team should ever come to Goodison and take liberties.
Your name suggests you were most likely around in the mid-80s and longer... did we ever roll over and allow teams to tickle out tummy when the likes of Reid, Sharp, Gray, Bracewell, VdH and co were in the team... and nobody took liberties with the 60s and very early 70s Everton.
If we're unable to compete on a skill level, we have to make up for it with sheer effort and dogged determination... and let the buggers know they're in for a rough, tough 90 minutes.
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AndyC
Player Valuation: £70m
Back in the day, I went with some mates who are/were City fans to a City Supporters Club do at Maine Road where the late, great Colin Bell and Francis Lee were the guests.
Someone in the audience asked them, who were the toughest opposition they played each season. I would guess that 99.9% of the audience expected Bell and Lee to say Leeds, so it was a bit of a shock when Bell said, almost without hesitation. "Everton. They have some great players and play some lovely football but, they are as tough as any team and you know about it the next day."
Francis Lee sat there nodding his head in agreement.
Rooney_Tunes
Player Valuation: £40m
You were thinking exactly the same...
MisterJ
Player Valuation: £30m
He was great, he organised and bullied our defence into shape, gave nothing away and battled to the end
BenToffee79
Player Valuation: £8m
Hard to pick this one several 8/10s yesterday, I opted for Tarks as he scored and created doucs opener and also provided two goal saving blocks at the other end , but lovelu to see Everton playing in this physical way the size of our team we should be bullying sides a lot more , a win the whole fanbase needed !
Lob
Player Valuation: £50m
Exactly. Pretty much the entire fan base said the same thing. Got to love after the fact multi quoting eh. lol
Old Blue 2
Player Valuation: £35m
It's fine to disagree, as all that we state on here are opinions.
I didn't see any lying down, only an attempt to keep them at bay. And that was done successfully until they produced an absolutely superb move from a corner to finally undo us.
Feigning injury is the curse of many modern players, and Arsenal were up to that trick as we all saw, with the ref (as usual) not seeing through their cheating game.
As for strolling around, you may see it as that, but quite a few statistics in the modern game show that possession isn't everything. Norwich had 69% possession yesterday, and got hammered 6-2! If a team like Arsenal pass it around at the back quite a bit, it does wonders for their possession stats, but does not necessarily translate into loads of goals. The two are not mutually inclusive, rather exclusive.
Yeah, I've been watching Everton (probably) for longer than most on here, from around the 56-57 season when my father first took me on the Gwladys Street. I saw us win the league and FA Cup before I was 16. Seen some glorious Everton teams: the 62-63 team that scored 84 goals with Vernon & Young getting 42 between them. The 69-70 team that broke up all too soon. The glorious mid-80s team that was slaughtered, in retrospect, by you-know-what. But I've also seen some pretty abysmal Everton teams in the mid-70s, the '90s (the relegation scrape year), and in more recent times that we have all gone through in the last two seasons.
I agree with you that we should have been more aggressive last week, but there is a feeling among Everton supporters which I'm sure you've seen on here, that certain refs seem to 'have it in' for our club - witness the ludicrous disallowing of the goal in the first half against Fulham when the score was 0-0. Their keeper missed clattered into an Everton player, dropped the ball, and we scored, as you know. It should have been a goal, or a penalty. Changed the course of the game completely. The Spurs & Man City home 'handball' games, the Clattenberg derby, I was on the Kippax for the '77 semi-final against the RS when we were blatantly denied a perfectly good winning goal. Sickens me to the core. Had we gone ploughing into Arsenal players last week, with their feigning injury at every turn, we would have definitely been on for a red card or two. That is how refs 'protect' the 'Sky six' nowadays, as we saw in the Man Utd-Wolves fiasco refereeing in the first game of the season - no pen to Wolves, 3 points to Man Utd, nothing for Wolves.
I think we have the making of a decent team, and we saw that with the decent performances against Fulham, Sheff Utd & Wolves, and it all came together better yesterday.
Apologies for the long post; I hope I have explained myself better that I did with my previous post.
Markydys
Player Valuation: £1m
Give Dyche time and we'll be OK. Villa away was terrible. Arsenal home not great.
But in the other games we've been good without having a goalscorer. I think we should be capable of a mid-table finish which is better than any of us could have imagined.
Brainthwaite was quality yesterday. COYB
But in the other games we've been good without having a goalscorer. I think we should be capable of a mid-table finish which is better than any of us could have imagined.
Brainthwaite was quality yesterday. COYB
Old Blue 2
Player Valuation: £35m
@AndyC
Good discussion above. You made some excellent points which are worth giving a lot of thought to.
I was heartened by yesteday's performance. Hopefully there are better things to come from this present squad once all are fully fit, and we can acquire a couple of useful additions in January (Boardroom shenanigans notwithstanding!).
Good discussion above. You made some excellent points which are worth giving a lot of thought to.
I was heartened by yesteday's performance. Hopefully there are better things to come from this present squad once all are fully fit, and we can acquire a couple of useful additions in January (Boardroom shenanigans notwithstanding!).
st.domingo
Player Valuation: £8m
I think we're all on the same page there.
Just watched the highlights this morning and there were some real flashes of quality in there.
Here's hoping we keep the good vibes going next week.
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