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Bury FC: 1885 to 2019 inc. petition

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A real shame if either of these teams get dismantled.
Bolton fan's are a tad miffed that they are getting some stick from Leeds and Blackpool fans in particular. Empathy eh ?
For a lot of us oldie football fans , It would be a crying shame to see Wanderers become extinct. As a club of history ourselves , we appreciate theirs .
 
Number_25 said:
Serious question about whether having professional footballers futher down the pyramid is actually feasible, the TV money isn't there.
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It is feasible. What isn’t feasible is having clubs run by idiots that have no clue as to how to run a professional club. Too often there’s a run before you can walk approach - so you get situations like Oldham where some no mark idiot chairman that doesn’t understand the game hires Paul Scholes. Oldham don’t automatically become an overnight success but Scholes brings in 4/5 players on high money with sign on fees etc. So within 6 months the club has to pay comps to Scholes and is left with 4/5 players that might be on high wages completely unusable for the next no mark coach that comes in.

How does it get fixed? Big one for me is actual salary caps at lower leagues, some no mark journeymen are on daft money, I know a lad that played at Mansfield a few years ago and a team mate was chartering choppers to fly him about!

Secondly, end the manager merry go round- the amount of short term chopping and changing is ridiculous and mean that clubs actually have to have some stability- you should have to go to an FA board and say we want him out because x,y,z - then if they agree he goes.

League One & Two really need to be treated as ‘nursery’ type leagues for player and coach development. That can be done whilst paying lads full time wages, but needs far more hands on care from the FA.
 
Number_25 said:
Serious question about whether having professional footballers futher down the pyramid is actually feasible, the TV money isn't there.
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As with any business you have to live to your means. There is enough money to employ kids who will be paid far more for kicking a ball around than they would doing some other job. When clubs try to overstretch or gamble on promotion is when things start to go awry.
 
atrottel said:
Sounds as though this 'last-minute rescue' is looking a lot more dubious as they are now asking for even more time (having been in previous discussions with the owner so it isn't as though it has come out of the blue) and look like they are desperately short on funding.

It's a given that a number of current and prospective club owners/businessmen are utter pond life and that football administration is often a laughable club of jobs for white old or middle-aged boys.

However, I've got mixed feelings about why anyone should pump money into a Bury or Bolton (which would probably end up in the pockets of previous owners due to debt manipulation). Surely clubs making their way back up the league such as Torquay, Wrexham or Halifax have an equal right to a Football League place? Or even ones that have never been League clubs previously?
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You can add Stockport County to that list. Easy to forget they fell from near the top of the championship all the way down to the bottom of Conference North and spent 7 years there until getting back into the National League this season. Their recent decade of history is every bit the same as the likes of Bury, Chester, Halifax, Wrexham, Oldham etc. The penny finally dropped, they learned to become a community club living within their means and their future is looking brighter. Will they return to league football anytime soon? Probably not when the likes of Salford and Fylde over the last few years have been over-funded compared to other clubs in the national league and clubs like notts county, Barnet and orient drop thru the trap door . But national league clubs now tend to be better run than most legacy league 2 clubs.
 

RIP Bury. The football league has failed them.

The club will flourish once again, in a different for, but it may be a generation from now.
 

Big Fat Sam said:
RIP Bury. The football league has failed them.

The club will flourish once again, in a different for, but it may be a generation from now.
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Like is that it then? In an hour, well less really, they will literally be dead? No husk to rebuild or anything?

Cos as awful as it is, the reality, as far as I know, is that they are getting lobbed out of the league.
 

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