2019/20 Carlo Ancelotti

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Correct. And besides, Ancelotti is not a hair dryer type of manager.

To get his message across he;ll just replace them with players with better technique and better character.

3/4 windows the job will be complete.

The result really peed me off, what was worse though was recognising that lot over there have got some very impressive young players. Where are our young players?
 
Correct. And besides, Ancelotti is not a hair dryer type of manager.

To get his message across he;ll just replace them with players with better technique and better character.

3/4 windows the job will be complete.

It's funny really, having a discussion on the transfer thread about Ragnar Klavan. Now a few weeks ago, maybe even a few days ago I'd have been up in arms about it. Now I'm at the point where I go, Klopp signed him, Ancelotti likes him and if he wants to sign him, to me thats a lot more than the gang of bottlers in our team have going for them.

No top manager would touch any of our players. And discarded reserves of LFC may have more character and desire than our lads.
 
The result really peed me off, what was worse though was recognising that lot over there have got some very impressive young players. Where are our young players?
It's bogus that youth argument with them. Half that team were not youngsters. they were first team fringe players and well established in the PL.
 

It's funny really, having a discussion on the transfer thread about Ragnar Klavan. Now a few weeks ago, maybe even a few days ago I'd have been up in arms about it. Now I'm at the point where I go, Klopp signed him, Ancelotti likes him and if he wants to sign him, to me thats a lot more than the gang of bottlers in our team have going for them.

No top manager would touch any of our players. And discarded reserves of LFC may have more character and desire than our lads.

Ancelotti wants to buy him? I'm ok with that. He's earned the right to do wtf he wants IMO...unlike the no marks who've wasted half a billion quid here in the last 3 years.
 

Heres the first one- in the mirror. Lads lads it's very disappointing for everyone associated with the club
Time for you moaning fans to realise that the players are gutted. I'm with you Siggy
Gylfi Sigurdsson has offered an apology to Everton’s suffering fans, and admitted the players only have themselves to blame for a woeful derby defeat.
The Blues were booed from the pitch after a wretched FA Cup display at Liverpool , and only one player - Djbril Sidibe - went to acknowledge the away end at the final

The Iceland international, whose own display drew massive criticism from the visiting support, revealed that manager Carlo Ancelotti was angry in the dressing room afterwards…and admitted it was for good reason.
Asked if the new Italian boss was angry, he replied: “Of course. No-one is happy when you lose and are out of the cup. It's part of the job I think.
“Everyone associated with the club – fans, staff, players – are disappointed with the result. I think we have only got ourselves to blame not to have taken our chances in the first half. It's very disappointing.
 
Getting at least one of Schneiderlin / Sigurdsson out of the team permanently would be a good start.

As much as we would all like a bigger cull, it can't happen in the short-term.

I do think though it would send a clear message if either one of those, and I would choose Schneiderlin, never played for the club again after yesterday.

We are at the stage now where individual players have to be selected and binned off at the first opportunity, on grounds that they offer nothing.

One by one, however long it takes, these players have had too much indulgence.

Certain players should never play for the club again after that performance. I'm sure as most would concede, I am not a massively negative or knee jerking in response. I tend to avoid viewing single games as particularly totemic. If you lose a game, you can win the next one and people's views change entirely.

However I do make an exception for yesterday. That was the weakest Liverpool team they have put out in the fixture in my lifetime. We haven't won at their ground in 20 years, haven't won a derby in nearly 10 and haven't won the FA Cup in 25 years. Yet the performance showed no urgency, no desire, no good sense, no on field leadership. There was this odd mixture of nonchalance and arrogance, as we continued it get caught in possession treating the match as a training game.

And in truth, we know for most of these players it is not the first time they have let the club down. This is a prolonged experience of 3-4 years of real underperformance.

I'm not sure how that can left to slide. If the same 11 goes out again, or nobody is bombed then the message that failing to show up, in the biggest game we've had in a number of years is acceptable.

Players should be bombed. I would bring in players from the under 23's if necessary over a number of the players in that squad yesterday.
 
I wonder how diplomatic he will be about the standard of these players, in the medium-term.

Of course he will say and do the right things, he is an old hand at this game, but it will be interesting particularly when he has any break in Italy, what he chooses to say to any of his usual media contacts there about the state of play at Everton.

I really hope that whatever guarantees he has been given are realistic and achievable for the club to deliver, as the instant he starts talking about transfer budgets as an issue then his tenure here is doomed.

He has to stay for the duration of his contract as a minimum. There must have been some very interesting discussions about how much money is required and how long it will take to turn this ship around.

Still though, he may be a little surprised by yesterday. Not much, but to a degree. I think we will hear less about the great spirit of the players from now on and more of the bad cop.
 
Heres the first one- in the mirror
Gylfi Sigurdsson has offered an apology to Everton’s suffering fans, and admitted the players only have themselves to blame for a woeful derby defeat.
The Blues were booed from the pitch after a wretched FA Cup display at Liverpool , and only one player - Djbril Sidibe - went to acknowledge the away end at the final

The Iceland international, whose own display drew massive criticism from the visiting support, revealed that manager Carlo Ancelotti was angry in the dressing room afterwards…and admitted it was for good reason.
Asked if the new Italian boss was angry, he replied: “Of course. No-one is happy when you lose and are out of the cup. It's part of the job I think.
“Everyone associated with the club – fans, staff, players – are disappointed with the result. I think we have only got ourselves to blame not to have taken our chances in the first half. It's very disappointing.

I don't really want to here the apologies. If you want to do right, go and defeat them in the league.

Also the statement is ridiculous. It wasn't just not taking the chances in the first half. We were going through the gears in the first half. The few moments of quality we put together we walked through them. That should have been an annihilation yesterday, and his reflections seem to be the problems can be levelled centrally on poor finishing.
 
Heres the first one- in the mirror
Gylfi Sigurdsson has offered an apology to Everton’s suffering fans, and admitted the players only have themselves to blame for a woeful derby defeat.
The Blues were booed from the pitch after a wretched FA Cup display at Liverpool , and only one player - Djbril Sidibe - went to acknowledge the away end at the final

The Iceland international, whose own display drew massive criticism from the visiting support, revealed that manager Carlo Ancelotti was angry in the dressing room afterwards…and admitted it was for good reason.
Asked if the new Italian boss was angry, he replied: “Of course. No-one is happy when you lose and are out of the cup. It's part of the job I think.
“Everyone associated with the club – fans, staff, players – are disappointed with the result. I think we have only got ourselves to blame not to have taken our chances in the first half. It's very disappointing.
I’d reather they said nothing,
he’s disappointed(not arsed)
What he said is so patronising.
 

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