2019/20 Carlo Ancelotti

[JobForTheMoyes]

No, you're wrong. Parma finished 2nd in Ancelotti's first season. I'm well aware his predecessor at Parma won trophies and he didn't. I wasn't suggesting he'd transformed them into a great team. My original post was just correcting Keiran when he said they finished 2nd the year before he arrived, but they actually finished 2nd in Ancelotti's first season. Also, although Parma were a very good team, they weren't a massive club. They'd only spent six seasons in Serie A, at the time, after spending their entire history in the lower leagues prior to that.

Check Ancelotti's Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Ancelotti

Or, if you don't trust Wiki, look at this page: https://www.football-italia.net/130188/rise-fall-and-rise-again-parma

If people want to be negative about Carlo Ancelotti's appointment, that's entirely up to them, but they could at least get their facts right if they're going to do so.

You must be gutted your hero didn't get the job.

Your right - I misread his Parma years. I though he was there 3 years instead of two. But that shows there was even more regression than I thought. I thought he went 6th 2nd 6th, when he actually went 2nd then 6th.

So the progression was - Scala 3rd, Ancelotti, 2nd 6th.

Ultimately he was a young manager at the time, but he was not a success at Parma. He was kind of like their Martinez, or like the guy who replaced Martin ONeill at Leicester.

The good thing is he learned from the experience, not least of which was losing his tactical rigidity, as he was a firm believer in Sacchi’s 4-4-2.

Nevertheless, his time in Serie A is underwhelming when it comes to league performance, as he only won it once despite managing AC Milan, Juventus, Parma and Napoli.

He is undoubtedly one of the greatest cup managers ever (which certainly would be good for us) but just above average as a league manager.

 

[Fedlingen]

Renaissance

Best commercial i've seen for Umbro since we signed with them.

Who are we getting next year??

 

[Only-Blue-toffees]

I still can't believe he's our manager bloody loving it! onwards and upwards, exciting times

 

[Steve Wigan]

The euphoria reminds me a little bit of when Martinez signed Samuel E'to. And that didn't end well.

 

[4737carlin]

What a crazy month, full roller coaster of emotions, Labour lose the General Election and we get Carlo, from one extreme to the other in terms of despair and joy

 

[Jebus_lives]

Is he the best manager we could've got?

Yes. Based on that I'm all for it.

It's a signing with so much ambition and promise...I'm.just going to not try to worry and enjoy it.

 

[Bluetintedspecs]

Your right - I misread his Parma years. I though he was there 3 years instead of two. But that shows there was even more regression than I thought. I thought he went 6th 2nd 6th, when he actually went 2nd then 6th.

So the progression was - Scala 3rd, Ancelotti, 2nd 6th.

Ultimately he was a young manager at the time, but he was not a success at Parma. He was kind of like their Martinez, or like the guy who replaced Martin ONeill at Leicester.

The good thing is he learned from the experience, not least of which was losing his tactical rigidity, as he was a firm believer in Sacchi’s 4-4-2.

Nevertheless, his time in Serie A is underwhelming when it comes to league performance, as he only won it once despite managing AC Milan, Juventus, Parma and Napoli.

He is undoubtedly one of the greatest cup managers ever (which certainly would be good for us) but just above average as a league manager.

So you're saying that a manager that has won the league in four different countries is "just above average as a league manager." Lol

Even though you describe Ancelotti as one of the greatest cup managers ever, you are aware we've won nothing for 25 years? Yet, you still prefer your hero, Moyes to be our manager.

Are you Moyes' agent?

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

So you're saying that a manager that has won the league in four different countries is "just above average as a league manager." Lol

Even though you describe Ancelotti as one of the greatest cup managers ever, you are aware we've won nothing for 25 years? Yet, you still prefer your hero, Moyes to be our manager.

Are you Moyes' agent?

Not winning more than one league with that Milan team is a feat. And he lost the French league to Montpellier. He got the heave ho at Bayern and had big draw downs with Chelsea and Napoli.

None of this changes the fact he is stunningly successful. The fact he is a cup specialist is actually a good thing, as winning the FA or League cup would be a massive step forward.

And Ancelotti was my first choice for manager, but that doesn’t mean you should not realistically appraise his strengths and weaknesses.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

The euphoria reminds me a little bit of when Martinez signed Samuel E'to. And that didn't end well.

I was sure Capello would do great things with England - that did not turn out as I expected!

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Im delighted he has brought his own fitness coach in - hopefully he boots our woeful medical department into touch.

 

[johntmorgan67]

Kin ell some of the infighting “No you’re wrong” blah blah blah , “No I think you’ll find” etc...etc... turn it in lids !
We’ve just pulled a major coup by getting Papa Carlo (as he was so wonderfully referred to on the Moise Keane thread)
Christmas has come early IMO

 

[Blue83]

you should not realistically appraise his strengths and weaknesses.

How about we let him get a few games for us under his belt before we start going stat mad trying to prove why he's crap and not good enough

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

How about we let him get a few games for us under his belt before we start going stat mad trying to prove why he's crap and not good enough

Who says he’s not good enough?!? If anything he is way overqualified!

 

[Tigger]

Only on here could 'Evertonians' argue that the Don is not all thatlol we are crap and have just sacked Marco no mark and replaced him with a huge figure in world football. Everyone i know is buzzing so stop panicking you weirdos and enjoy the ride. It may not work, but then again it might. .

 

[Bluetintedspecs]

Not winning more than one league with that Milan team is a feat. And he lost the French league to Montpellier. He got the heave ho at Bayern and had big draw downs with Chelsea and Napoli.

None of this changes the fact he is stunningly successful. The fact he is a cup specialist is actually a good thing, as winning the FA or League cup would be a massive step forward.

And Ancelotti was my first choice for manager, but that doesn’t mean you should not realistically appraise his strengths and weaknesses.

Anyone can cherry pick stats to suit their own agenda. Here's another one for you.

Alex Ferguson took 7 years to win his first league title with Man U, so do you think he was "just above average as a league manager," too?