2020/21 Carlo Ancelotti

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

People can want Ancelotti out and should not be getting personal abuse for it.

Cerys, a genuine poster, was abused off the forum for holding an opinion. It is pathetic.

'Abused', lol, they were ridiculed for lying and bedwetting.

You've avoided answering this question numerous times but I'll try again. Who would you like to replace Carlo, right now?

 

[Martin Alvito]

The cracks are appearing in support of him. Ex-players are even starting with small remarks. It’s how it always starts.

I'll put it directly - if we fire Ancelotti, we may as well book our ticket to the Championship now. No sane manager will walk in here. If (God help us) Koeman lifts silverware, we'll be viewed as a club that fired a guy that got to the semis of a World Cup, fired a guy that won La Liga, killed Silva's career and fired a three time champion of Europe. We'll be Chelsea without the CL place and roster to suit.

 

[blueblue]

The cracks are appearing in support of him. Ex-players are even starting with small remarks. It’s how it always starts.

I saw a poll recently on which Premiership manager had the highest level of support from the club's supporters CA was the highest by some distancewith over 90 per cent support and that came as no surprise to me..þ

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

I saw a poll recently on which Premiership manager had the highest level of support from the club's supporters CA was the highest by some distancewith over 90 per cent support and that came as no surprise to me..þ

It's almost like @GwladysBlue is an attention seeking melt who doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.

 

[GwladysBlue]

Personally I find the Carlo hate very strange.

Given you know how much the game means, plus the frustration felt for years where multiple teams and managers have failed, you can surely see why people are pleased with this aspect of Ancelotti's reign?

It doesn't preclude said same people being critical of him too. Maybe it is me, but your stance on this comes across as a bit sour. Which may be why you kop so much flak.

But okay, that is football.

I don’t hate Ancelotti, I just don’t think he is taking us anywhere we haven’t already been with lesser managers.

He is getting away with a lot of his cock-ups because of who he is.

 

[GwladysBlue]

Personally I find the Carlo hate very strange.

Given you know how much the game means, plus the frustration felt for years where multiple teams and managers have failed, you can surely see why people are pleased with this aspect of Ancelotti's reign?

It doesn't preclude said same people being critical of him too. Maybe it is me, but your stance on this comes across as a bit sour. Which may be why you kop so much flak.

But okay, that is football.

I don’t hate Ancelotti, I just don’t think he is taking us anywhere we haven’t already been with lesser managers.

He is getting away with a lot of his cock-ups because of who he is.

I personally don't see how people can criticise him when we are still in a battle for top 4.

But hey, that's the way of the world these days.

I don't see us ever getting a manager with a pedigree like Carlo, so I don't ever see a day where I turn around and say "Yeah, we should let him go".

Honestly if we were doing a Koeman and scraping the bottom of the league I could understand it, no, 8th isn't where we want to be, but its a "start".

As I've said, its not my place to defend Ancelotti, nothing anything anybody can say will change your view and that's fine, holding your own views and fighting for them is perfectly fine, as I've also said, at some point you will probably be able to give us "Seeeeeeeeeeeee I told you he wouldn't ever do anything", we support a club that's done nothing for 26 years, so predicting failure is a cracking bet.

His past achievements should be disregarded and we should be focusing on what he is doing here.

The home form is an utter disgrace. Do we go into any Goodison game with confidence anymore? That just isn’t right.

8th is par for the course for us. This season, we had the chance to do more but Ancelotti hasn’t been able to do it. We can point to the squad but he did bring in 7 players, breaking our transfer philosophy in the process.

I think what the fans, the manager and the board were hoping for, was to see the sort of significant progress new managers at Leicester and West Ham brought in a short space of time. Not this same old with turgid football to boot.

I don’t want to be right but the writing is on the wall here. Once the fans are back, he better hope he’s found some solutions and has us actually attacking teams because we all know the boos would be raining down if we had to watch this right now.

 

[GwladysBlue]

OK we all know you don't like Ancelloti at Everton and think his appointment is bad. So who do you want instead of Ancelloti then? Who do you think would do a better job in the short term with what we currently have and long term as a project that eventually brings us silverware etc? And is this person a manager that can help us attract bigger name players? The type above our station that take us to the next level?

Nagelsmann or Rodgers

 

[chrissyjack]

How often has he been able to field his first choice eleven ? The side that had Everton topping the table .

 

[GwladysBlue]

'Abused', lol, they were ridiculed for lying and bedwetting.

You've avoided answering this question numerous times but I'll try again. Who would you like to replace Carlo, right now?

The owner of the site seems to disagree.

I’ve answered this question numerous times, including to another poster. Go find it.

 

[GwladysBlue]

I'll put it directly - if we fire Ancelotti, we may as well book our ticket to the Championship now. No sane manager will walk in here. If (God help us) Koeman lifts silverware, we'll be viewed as a club that fired a guy that got to the semis of a World Cup, fired a guy that won La Liga, killed Silva's career and fired a three time champion of Europe. We'll be Chelsea without the CL place and roster to suit.

We’re going to new levels of extreme here to defend Ancelotti.

 

[GwladysBlue]

I saw a poll recently on which Premiership manager had the highest level of support from the club's supporters CA was the highest by some distancewith over 90 per cent support and that came as no surprise to me..þ

Like an online poll means anything where football is concerned.

Poll after them Burnley or Crystal Palace games and you’d get an entirely different answer.

 

[Martin Alvito]

We’re going to new levels of extreme here to defend Ancelotti.

I'm serious. We hire a world-class manager, he rights a relegation-threatened ship, has a Europa-level second half, has us hovering around the European places in the next season with an injury-ravaged squad, and you want to replace him with Brendan Rogers? A man who let slip breaking a title drought and bottled a Champions League place?

That really would be a page from the Abramovich playbook.

Like an online poll means anything where football is concerned.

Poll after them Burnley or Crystal Palace games and you’d get an entirely different answer.

I think you're conflating criticism with "Out" banners.

 

[GwladysBlue]

I'm serious. We hire a world-class manager, he rights a relegation-threatened ship, has a Europa-level second half, has us hovering around the European places in the next season with an injury-ravaged squad, and you want to replace him with Brendan Rogers? A man who let slip breaking a title drought and bottled a Champions League place?

That really would be a page from the Abramovich playbook.



I think you're conflating criticism with "Out" banners.

Led a Europa-level second half?

Some of them games after lockdown were a disgrace. Topped off with a home thumping by Eddie Howe’s Bournemouth.

He got the new manager bounce on the back on the momentum Duncan Ferguson built and then presided over the FA Cup humiliation to Liverpool’s reserves and let a 2-0 lead against Newcastle slip in the last 60 seconds at home.

 

[Thomasc]

We’re going to new levels of extreme here to defend Ancelotti.

Nah, he has a point.
Wanting Ancelotti out at this moment in time is mental.
Yes he is subject to scrutiny as is any manager, but until we are rid of players from the 4 years of bad buying, his hands are a bit tied and he is still clearing out the garbage bought before him.
We win our game in hand we are in a European place, so calling for his head now is ridiculous and you are going too far.

 

[GwladysBlue]

Nah, he has a point.
Wanting Ancelotti out at this moment in time is mental.
Yes he is subject to scrutiny as is any manager, but until we are rid of players from the 4 years of bad buying, his hands are a bit tied and he is still clearing out the garbage bought before him.
We win our game in hand we are in a European place, so calling for his head now is ridiculous and you are going too far.

We lose that game and we’re 9th.

The progress is minimal at best. The football is shockingly poor and he flat out refuses to address it, if he did, maybe we wouldn’t currently be on for one of our worst ever home records.