2020/21 Carlo Ancelotti

[Blue Neon]

A toss-up??????????????????????

Nar you're taking the piss here surely.

Nar. YOUR taking the piss if you can't see it. Surely not another wind up from you! Please don't put West Hams squad in the same league as the RS. This season has shown Moyes to equally compete with Klopp at Premier level. Moyes doesn't have Klopps European experience so overall Klopp would be the better manager.

 

[Goat]

Nar. YOUR taking the piss if you can't see it. Surely not another wind up from you! Please don't put West Hams squad in the same league as the RS. This season has shown Moyes to equally compete with Klopp at Premier level. Moyes doesn't have Klopps European experience so overall Klopp would be the better manager.

Yep, 100% trolling.

Moyes got relegated with Sunderland
Klopp won the league by 30 points

 

[Goat]

In the stinky brown corner, a man who has won the following :

Football League Second Division: 1999–2000
FA Community Shield: 2013

In the blue corner, a man who has won the following :

UEFA Intertoto Cup: 1999
Serie A: 2003–04
Coppa Italia: 2002–03
Supercoppa Italiana: 2004
UEFA Champions League: 2002–03, 2006–07
UEFA Super Cup: 2003, 2007
FIFA Club World Cup: 2007
Premier League: 2009–10
FA Cup: 2009–10
FA Community Shield: 2009
Ligue 1: 2012–13
Copa del Rey: 2013–14
UEFA Champions League: 2013–14
UEFA Super Cup: 2014
FIFA Club World Cup: 2014
Bundesliga: 2016–17
DFL-Supercup: 2016

And another man who has won :

Bundesliga: 2010–11, 2011–12
DFB-Pokal: 2011–12
DFL-Supercup: 2013, 2014
UEFA Champions League runner-up: 2012–13
Premier League: 2019–20
UEFA Champions League: 2018–19
UEFA Super Cup: 2019
FIFA Club World Cup: 2019

And I'm meant to think that the first fella is the better manager????

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

In the stinky brown corner, a man who has won the following :

Football League Second Division: 1999–2000
FA Community Shield: 2013

In the blue corner, a man who has won the following :

UEFA Intertoto Cup: 1999
Serie A: 2003–04
Coppa Italia: 2002–03
Supercoppa Italiana: 2004
UEFA Champions League: 2002–03, 2006–07
UEFA Super Cup: 2003, 2007
FIFA Club World Cup: 2007
Premier League: 2009–10
FA Cup: 2009–10
FA Community Shield: 2009
Ligue 1: 2012–13
Copa del Rey: 2013–14
UEFA Champions League: 2013–14
UEFA Super Cup: 2014
FIFA Club World Cup: 2014
Bundesliga: 2016–17
DFL-Supercup: 2016

And another man who has won :

Bundesliga: 2010–11, 2011–12
DFB-Pokal: 2011–12
DFL-Supercup: 2013, 2014
UEFA Champions League runner-up: 2012–13
Premier League: 2019–20
UEFA Champions League: 2018–19
UEFA Super Cup: 2019
FIFA Club World Cup: 2019

And I'm meant to think that the first fella is the better manager????

Gonna win the 2021 tactics trophy, tho

 

[Goat]

Gonna win the 2021 tactics trophy, tho

He peaked in 2005.

This isn't even his best season.

 

[APN_EFC]

I'm annoyed by comparisons to Moyes and pining for his return. He was great for us at the time, but he moved on, never seems to talk about us, and it never works to bring someone like that back.
There were a lot of good things about Moyes at Everton, but IMO
- He could never get strikers to work well here, despite being able to spend on some big ones - Johnson, Beattie, people like that were here and were decent at the time, but nobody scored a lot until Yakubu.
- Tactically we were inflexible
- We were fortunate to have excellent players at the right age, Baines, Cahill, Arteta, Coleman, Jags, Distin, Howard - an excellent core
- His recruitment at the time was really good, and they recruited leaders, which we have yet to do - and that helped a lot.
- Even though we had 'big characters' , he could still not create an atmosphere and mentality to beat bigger teams, even sometimes!
- ...and that's true even though there were really only 6 top teams, and were always easily 7th, and nobody really threatened the top 7 much - in fact, Man City and Spurs were not even as good at that time and the reds were inconsistent

So overall it worked because of the timing as well, and he just wouldn't work because of what is required now- this type of rebuild is different and Ancelotti will come good for us!

 

[Blue Neon]

Yep, 100% trolling.

Moyes got relegated with Sunderland
Klopp won the league by 30 points

Just shows how much Moyes has come on then AND how backwards Klopp has gone. !00% trolling.

 

[Goat]

Just shows how much Moyes has come on then AND how backwards Klopp has gone. !00% trolling.

Phew, glad you arent serious.

Great banter tho.

 

[Blue Neon]

I'm annoyed by comparisons to Moyes and pining for his return. He was great for us at the time, but he moved on, never seems to talk about us, and it never works to bring someone like that back.
There were a lot of good things about Moyes at Everton, but IMO
- He could never get strikers to work well here, despite being able to spend on some big ones - Johnson, Beattie, people like that were here and were decent at the time, but nobody scored a lot until Yakubu.
- Tactically we were inflexible
- We were fortunate to have excellent players at the right age, Baines, Cahill, Arteta, Coleman, Jags, Distin, Howard - an excellent core
- His recruitment at the time was really good, and they recruited leaders, which we have yet to do - and that helped a lot.
- Even though we had 'big characters' , he could still not create an atmosphere and mentality to beat bigger teams, even sometimes!
- ...and that's true even though there were really only 6 top teams, and were always easily 7th, and nobody really threatened the top 7 much - in fact, Man City and Spurs were not even as good at that time and the reds were inconsistent

So overall it worked because of the timing as well, and he just wouldn't work because of what is required now- this type of rebuild is different and Ancelotti will come good for us!

One striker you missed out was Marcus Bent. Remember him well. Scored about 20 goals in about 55- 60 appearances roughly. Bought for about £500,000. Sold for about £2.5 mil. Moyes strengths was in signing good midfield players though. Especially Arteta who brought slick football in that area.

 

[Chimpy Glassman]

Moyes will be looking to play Carlo for sure tactically. His post match interview if he wins will be a joy to see for all his doubters.

Have you completely forgotten the 11 years he was here?

 

[Chimpy Glassman]

 

[Blue Neon]

Have you completely forgotten the 11 years he was here?

No. But to compare, can't think or remember anything really since he left !!!!!!

 

[Bullens Rd]

Have you completely forgotten the 11 years he was here?

The best football I've seen in my life as an Evertonian, for a number of those years. An absolute joy watching the likes of Baines, Pienaar, Arteta, and Cahill massively outperform their meagre transfer fees, and seeing the almost rebirth of the likes of Distin, Yakubu, Martyn, with Carsley, Gravesen, Jagielka and Howard leaving their all out of the field.

What I wouldn't give to be able to bring back ANY of the above back to play for us from that era.

Nowadays we just have a bunch of grossly overpaid, disgustingly entitled cowards who seemingly aren't bothered whether we win, lose or draw. It's all just a bit of a laugh for the Everton squad and has been for a decade.

The only club in world football where the more money we spent, the worse we got.

 

[Carlito]

Is it a poorer squad? It has a lot more balance than ours. Individually maybe but even then I am not so sure.

A competent manager should be doing well with that squad.

They're a bit short up top (I rate Antonio, but he's very injury prone), but they've got a lot of fast, athletic and technically sound players, and most of them are at a good age.

On the whole, I'd say that their recruitment has been much better than Everton's (Moyes deserves some credit for that, to be fair).

 

[Chimpy Glassman]

The best football I've seen in my life as an Evertonian, for a number of those years. An absolute joy watching the likes of Baines, Pienaar, Arteta, and Cahill massively outperform their meagre transfer fees, and seeing the almost rebirth of the likes of Distin, Yakubu, Martyn, with Carsley, Gravesen, Jagielka and Howard leaving their all out of the field.

What I wouldn't give to be able to bring back ANY of the above back to play for us from that era.

Nowadays we just have a bunch of grossly overpaid, disgustingly entitled cowards who seemingly aren't bothered whether we win, lose or draw. It's all just a bit of a laugh for the Everton squad and has been for a decade.

The only club in world football where the more money we spent, the worse we got.

Absolute rose tinted revisionism. Most wanted him out in his last 2 seasons. He only hung on because we didn't have a pot to slash in and he knew he was succeeding Ferguson.

Unquestionably, undeniably, the 'best' football we've played in the last 30 years was under Martinez. It's just a fact.

How many times did we beat (what was) the 'top four' away under Mr Gun-to-a-knife-fight?

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