2020/21 Carlo Ancelotti

[MikeH72]

Id give him 12 months at Everton and you'd be throwing darts at him.

I mean he isn’t managing Everton ever in his life because we’re mid table fodder.

 

[Gilbert..]

I mean he isn’t managing Everton ever in his life because we’re mid table fodder.

Exactly. We'd be mid table fodder under him aswell.
The personel needs a clear out.
Nobody is turning iwobi davies gomes and the rest into anything else.

 

[wainy]

I think it's weird that we are certain we can't do better than the manager who has us playing at a 10th place level for his entire time. I get what his name is.

We can’t.

 

[coollino]

This thread is just an alternative reality now isn't it.

 

[Gilbert..]

This thread is just an alternative reality now isn't it.

Or a grass is always greener thread.
Although with Everton when you cross over to that greener grass it usualy turns out to be astro turf covered in dog sh!t.

 

[Kever10]

18 months. No one has any clue what we're aiming for. But it's fine.

We're the dog in the burning house meme.

Yeah, he's sitting there doing nothing while the club is burning down. Not even in the slightest bit dramatic.

We finished 10th. We improved on his 1st year. We did so with the majority of the garbage squad he inherited and is stuck with for the time being. It could've been better. We ran out of steam. Injuries caught up with us and early season goals dried up.

As a matter of interest, what could he have done differently? Or more to the point, what would you have done differently? Signed more players, better players, for the comparatively small amount of £60m he's spent since he's been here, such is the way the finances in football are going? I suppose you would've bought 6 relatively unknown stars with a point to prove, for less money, who would definitely have hit the ground running, fit right in and not been injured once. You would also have sold half the players that neither we, nor any other team seems to want, for more money than they are worth, and they all definitely would have left, even if they were offered less money by inferior clubs. Maybe you would've thrown more young, unproven players in to show all the professionals how it's done, and just pay them all millions of pounds per week to not make the squad. Or maybe you would've tried to get a limited squad to play expansive football, leaving huge gaps at the back, and rather than losing a few baffling games by the odd goal to a few fired up opponents who sensed a lack energy and confidence, we'd have gone gung ho in every game and conceded 3 or 4 as our midfield got totally overrun and left our fragile defence exposed. And at the end of the season, we would've even been flying high, or relegated. But hey, we gave it a go right?

Plans take time. Just because you don't know what it is, doesnt mean there isn't one.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Yeah, he's sitting there doing nothing while the club is burning down. Not even in the slightest bit dramatic.

We finished 10th. We improved on his 1st year. We did so with the majority of the garbage squad he inherited and is stuck with for the time being. It could've been better. We ran out of steam. Injuries caught up with us and early season goals dried up.

As a matter of interest, what could he have done differently? Or more to the point, what would you have done differently? Signed more players, better players, for the comparatively small amount of £60m he's spent since he's been here, such is the way the finances in football are going? I suppose you would've bought 6 relatively unknown stars with a point to prove, for less money, who would definitely have hit the ground running, fit right in and not been injured once. You would also have sold half the players that neither we, nor any other team seems to want, for more money than they are worth, and they all definitely would have left, even if they were offered less money by inferior clubs. Maybe you would've thrown more young, unproven players in to show all the professionals how it's done, and just pay them all millions of pounds per week to not make the squad. Or maybe you would've tried to get a limited squad to play expansive football, leaving huge gaps at the back, and rather than losing a few baffling games by the odd goal to a few fired up opponents who sensed a lack energy and confidence, we'd have gone gung ho in every game and conceded 3 or 4 as our midfield got totally overrun and left our fragile defence exposed. And at the end of the season, we would've even been flying high, or relegated. But hey, we gave it a go right?

Plans take time. Just because you don't know what it is, doesnt mean there isn't one.

Here we go again confusing playing better with playing like Leeds or something

 

[Death]

Do not fail Carlo. You hear me Ev? On your last legs.

I'll walk with Carlo. I mean it.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

If he can't get anything out of us then it reflects more on us than him to be honest

I can't help but think this is pretty much our last chance to kick on

If a manager of his standing can't do it then I don't know who can

Massive summer incoming

I just wish I had faith in Brands

 

[Martin Alvito]

Here we go again confusing playing better with playing like Leeds or something

It's a fair question that you're dodging by invoking Bielsa.

It's easy to use the benefit of hindsight to claim we should have bought X players. Any claim that we should have used Y tactics can never be tested. It's easy to say that the manager should have found Z that works right away with no learning curve, or that if he switches to something that doesn't work as well as Z that he never should have switched.

I haven't even seen you go that far. I don't know what you want from Carlo in concrete terms of "buy players with this profile, play with this system or set of systems." I don't know how you think he could have managed the spell with no attackers, then the one with no midfielders, better than he did.

Relentless negativity is fine if you can clearly articulate what you would do differently. You're not doing that, which is why you're getting pushback rather than a discussion.

 

[Goat]

It's a fair question that you're dodging by invoking Bielsa.

It's easy to use the benefit of hindsight to claim we should have bought X players. Any claim that we should have used Y tactics can never be tested. It's easy to say that the manager should have found Z that works right away with no learning curve, or that if he switches to something that doesn't work as well as Z that he never should have switched.

I haven't even seen you go that far. I don't know what you want from Carlo in concrete terms of "buy players with this profile, play with this system or set of systems." I don't know how you think he could have managed the spell with no attackers, then the one with no midfielders, better than he did.

Relentless negativity is fine if you can clearly articulate what you would do differently. You're not doing that, which is why you're getting pushback rather than a discussion.

He wants us to have a system.

He considers the fact that CA has spent all season trying different things as a negative, I suspect he would rather we had a manager who did the same thing every week, which is kinda weird. Using CAs flexibility as a stick to beat him with.

 

[zukai12_]

hope Zidane wants to rekindle his fruitful partnership with Ancelotti

 

[Brisan123]

Formation alert

Pickford
Godfrey Mina Left Footer
RWB Doucoure Davies Allan Digne
DCL Richarlison​

Conte would urinate himself either laughing or crying at the thoughts of Skaterboy in his midfield

 

[Brisan123]

Formation alert

Pickford
Godfrey Mina Left Footer
RWB Doucoure Davies Allan Digne
DCL Richarlison​

You have left out the best footballer at the club , plus you left out Iwobi

 

[Brisan123]

Conte is in the top 3 managers in the world, let’s calm down here for a second.

Pep
Carlo
ZZ
Allegri
That’s without thinking too long