2020/21 Carlo Ancelotti

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catcherintherye said:
I actually think there's probably a bit in that. However I do also think its a bit overblown. Teams tend to lose and win. You will lose some games, and over the last 20 years you will lose and win some important games. I'm not sure we lose anymore big games than others.

The 2nd point would be, why was yesterdays game against West Ham the big game? Over say Sheffield United? Or Arsenal? Or Leicester? Or Chelsea? Or Brighton? Or Palace? Or Spurs? I'd argue all of the above were "bigger" games in their own right if we were to look at things objectively. It always seems a case that a large dose of confirmation bias kicks in to these discussions.

As a final aside even if it exists (it may do) it's not really a manager who's been here 1 year to fix, and nor is it going to be fixed in 12 months is it? It's going to take time. The metrics we are using, I.E we don't win enough games are beign overwhelmingly changed now. The evidence is quite clear in this regard.
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As I said, let’s hope Ancelotti can buck that trend.

I think yesterday’s game was bigger than the others because it gave us a chance to start putting some distance between ourselves and the chasing pack. Now we can be clawed back.

We need to learn to be comfortable with playing as the favourites in games.

The next few games we’ll be back to being expected to lose, so I think we’ll perform quite well.
 
TheSecondComing said:
Don’t talk about culture because it can’t be seen people don’t believe it’s real.

Until Kenwright and his cronies he’s positioned in power leave nothing will change.
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Kenwright has played a huge part in our demise as a club.

Why he thinks him being here in his late 70s is still good for the club is beyond me, too.

It can’t come soon enough the day he finally leaves. I suspect he’ll be clinging on until we get to that new stadium to try and claim some praise.
 
catcherintherye said:
Which I agree with. But surely the fact they haven't gone, is not a stick to beat Ancelotti with. It shows he's doing even better, given who he is working under.
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I just seen the mention of culture and people normally dismiss it and say “kEnWrIgHt HaS No ShArEs”.

Carlo is doing fine but am still convinced this club won’t truly progress until the sentimental, loser culture dies
 

GwladysBlue said:
As I said, let’s hope Ancelotti can buck that trend.

I think yesterday’s game was bigger than the others because it gave us a chance to start putting some distance between ourselves and the chasing pack. Now we can be clawed back.

We need to learn to be comfortable with playing as the favourites in games.

The next few games we’ll be back to being expected to lose, so I think we’ll perform quite well.
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OK so we didn't put distance between ourselves and the pack when playing Sheffield United? Or earlier in the season against Brighton or Palace?

Or "putting distance" is now bigger than say getting over the line into the position in the first place? LIke against Arsenal? Or defeating 2 of your rivals Leicester and Chelsea?

It would be reasonable to argue, objectively that yesterdays game was the least important of all the games I've mentioned above, wouldn't it?

It's sort of why attributing unwarranted importance to specific games in what appears like a random manner seems a bit foolish. We want to win as many games as we can. As I said, if we can win 4, lose 1 till the end of the season, Ancelotti probably goes down as the greatest manager in PL history.
 
GwladysBlue said:
No, stop reading into things that aren’t there.

We won’t finish top 4, we don’t have the squad for it.

My expectation is 7th.
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OK, so if we can finish 7th and upwards, then logically in your eyes we wouldnt have bottled the season would we? And we can finish say 6th, and lose a lot more games can't we?
 

If you offered us top 4 at 2/1/2021 100% everyone in here would have taken it so there is no point umming and ahing about the little details, We just need to kick on. Europa should be the aim the squad is not good enough to hit the CL places imo.
 
catcherintherye said:
OK so we didn't put distance between ourselves and the pack when playing Sheffield United? Or earlier in the season against Brighton or Palace?

Or "putting distance" is now bigger than say getting over the line into the position in the first place? LIke against Arsenal? Or defeating 2 of your rivals Leicester and Chelsea?

It would be reasonable to argue, objectively that yesterdays game was the least important of all the games I've mentioned above, wouldn't it?

It's sort of why attributing unwarranted importance to specific games in what appears like a random manner seems a bit foolish. We want to win as many games as we can. As I said, if we can win 4, lose 1 till the end of the season, Ancelotti probably goes down as the greatest manager in PL history.
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No, we didn’t put distance between ourselves and the rest last week. We had the chance to yesterday and blew it at home to a David Moyes side.
 

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