It’s gone from the Alpine Klopp, to crazy Beilsa, to Moyes.
All it takes, is for someone to win a few games on the bounce and it’s SHOULD’VE GOT ...... insert flavour of the month.
Pathetic.
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It’s gone from the Alpine Klopp, to crazy Beilsa, to Moyes.
All it takes, is for someone to win a few games on the bounce and it’s SHOULD’VE GOT ...... insert flavour of the month.
Pathetic.
Why do you think Levy binned Poch for Mourinho? Poch didnt struggle for talent but just couldnt get over that hurdle.
I dont doubt Moyes will get decent finishes and the odd semi final, maybr even a final but will always fail.
You seen it with Liverpool the other week. West Ham were doing well, playing some good stuff and scoring goals. Instead of going at Liverpool who were depleted defensively, they sat back, played safe and struggled - then got beat. Moyes will always brick it
I'm not at all saying Moyes over Carlo here.
But, if West Ham finish above us this season, it won't be because of quality. It'll be because Moyes knows how to beat teams that they should beat. If that means sacrificing points against the top 5/6, it matters not, because there's more teams out of that category than there are in it.
Thomasc
Formerly known as By God I'm Blue
I’m sure nobody’s saying we should have appointed Moyes over Carlo Ancelotti....are they? Ps can’t be arsed looking back through thread.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Ths problem is though that when Moyes was here some fans were moaning that we didn’t beat the top opposition enough. 5th is as high as you go if you just win games you’re supposed to win. I’d argue that Carlo cracking the nut of beating weaker teams at home might be an easier task in the long run than Moyes adapting his formula to beat top teams and teams away from home.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
To be fair to @GwladysBlue here, and I’m not always, I don’t think he’s actually called for Moyes to be our next manager from what I can see. He’s just said it would be embarrassing if Moyes finished above us, which it would be.
The long and the short of it Carlo is being paid an absolute fortune to figure out how to counter against teams that have a heavy press all over the pitch and he has failed just about every chance we have gotten. He's getting paid to beat the bigger teams, he's getting paid the same to beat the lower teams. We have not shown up in about 1/3 of our matches at all. We've not shown up when we had no time in between matches, we've also not shown up when we had a full weeks break. I don't care how "crap" our squad is, Carlo is being paid to make these changes and he didn't do anything yesterday regardless of how glaringly obvious the issue was until the game was basically over.
It's like they don't practice against these situations at all in training. God knows what they do IN training but it sure isn't trying to break through a pressing team.
It's like they don't practice against these situations at all in training. God knows what they do IN training but it sure isn't trying to break through a pressing team.
Yes I fully agree and think Moyes will do well there. The one thing he will do is ensure they work hard as a bare minimum. Im just saying Ancelotti was brought in to try and get us to win the League/FA cup and hopefully top 4.
Imo you are better losing games againat the big teams but winning the lesser games as there are more of them.
Oh I agree. I should have factored that into the post - right now, he seems to have found a way/team of getting those results. But that could obviously change. Issue is, we've kind of being poor at it all season, bar the first few games.
Thomasc
Formerly known as By God I'm Blue
It’s a valid point. Especially when you look at the resources available to both managers.
Moyes doesn’t have a world class player like Rodriguez, or Allan, Dacoure type quality.
Moyes is having a cracking season, good luck to him too, despite him ratting on us.
Let's see where West ham are after their next 5
That will be a measure of their progress.
That will be a measure of their progress.
Carloblues
Player Valuation: £30m
To be fair to Moyes here though, Liverpool are have dropped points a lot in the games they have struggled to break down the defensively sound teams, so why would Moyes go out and attack them?
He's doing very well at West ham this season him. He's not for a patch on Carlo though
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
It should definitely be noted that Moyes is making an absolute show of Manuel Pellegrini, who people actually were calling for us to appoint.
Well, ideal world we do both. We need to turn these defeats into draws at the very least.
GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
Yeah, they are but then what is the point in spending huge fees and wages for big name managers and players when teams like West Ham are better?
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