2017/18 Cenk Tosun

[Kev The Rat]

Are you racist? Because the only reason you can think Dutch League (e.g. Klaasen) is better than Turkish league (or to be honest - than most of the leagues in Europe) is that you are a racist.

I Say it’s a weaker league than epl - like the Turkish league is much weaker. Where did I say the Dutch league is better than the Turkish league?

I’d be much more confident of a player from one of Frances top teams making it over here.

 

[suey_11]

Maybe because he’s useless , like

He’s in good company then.

 

[roydo]

Are you racist? Because the only reason you can think Dutch League (e.g. Klaasen) is better than Turkish league (or to be honest - than most of the leagues in Europe) is that you are a racist.

Pretty strong accusation that mate. Think the assessment is based on football ability.

And the irony of a Turk lobbing racist accusations around isnt lost on us.

But carry on. For the record, reckon hes a decent player, not been given a chance.

 

[maccavennie]

Yep, I'm happy to give him a run of games as I reckon he will turn out decent. If he doesn't turn out decent this will be the signing that get Walsh sacked so it's win win innit

Hope he starts tomorrow but if not hope he comes on and slots his first goal which will settle him down.

 

[artena_condari]

I Say it’s a weaker league than epl - like the Turkish league is much weaker. Where did I say Dutch league is better than the Turkish league?

I’d be much more confident of a player from one of Frances top teams making it over here.

Anyway mate, here is my ranking for leagues of Europe:

1) Premier League
2) La liga
3) Serie A
4) Bundesliga
5) Turkish League
6) Ligue 1 (French League)

and so on. You may agree or not but for Everton's sake, just give the benefit of doubt. If not, then just boo whenever Cenk gets time in a game, I am sure that will contribute to Everton!

 

[oliverwri]

Anyway mate, here is my ranking for leagues of Europe:

1) Premier League
2) La liga
3) Serie A
4) Bundesliga
5) Turkish League
6) Ligue 1 (French League)

and so on. You may agree or not but for Everton's sake, just give the benefit of doubt. If not, then just boo whenever Cenk gets time in a game, I am sure that will contribute to Everton!

Turkey above France? Not sure about that one myself.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Turkey above France? Not sure about that one myself.

Yeah total joke

Look at some of the quality of players that have come out of France into this league. Dozens of class players have played here from France.

Blokes off his rocker tbh.

Turkish league better than France.

Besiktas would finish top 4 here.

Cenk should be playing for spurs.

His comments aren’t actually helpful at all in making a fair assessment of Tosun.

 

[artena_condari]

Pretty strong accusation that mate. Think the assessment is based on football ability.

And the irony of a Turk lobbing racist accusations around isnt lost on us.

But carry on. For the record, reckon hes a decent player, not been given a chance.

Is it an irony really or is it orientalism that makes you think Turks are just products of a stereotype?

Anyway, I studied for my PhD in London for 4 years, and I call myself socialist and internationalist. As you said, we shall just carry on.

 

[Dabluez]

We’ve had several players from weaker leagues who’ve not been what we expected.

Besic
Niasse
Klaasen

To name but 3

Cenk looks like a 4th.

We need proven quality not punts, and let’s face it that’s what buying anyone from Turkey is.

He is the right age 26 and has a proven pedigree 113 goals in 270 games in Turkey, 8 in 25 for the National team and 5 in 12 in the Champions League. Show a bit of patience and judge him when he has had a chance to show what he can do.

 

[artena_condari]

Turkey above France? Not sure about that one myself.

France has only PSG and Monaco, if you try hard, you can add Lyon.

Apart from PSG, they are quite crap. Besiktas won 2 matches against Monaco just this season.

 

[Kev The Rat]

France has only PSG and Monaco, if you try hard, you can add Lyon.

Apart from PSG, they are quite crap. Besiktas won 2 matches against Monaco just this season.

Let’s talk about what players have come here from France and compare those with what’s come from Turkey.

Many of the best players to ever play in the epl have been French.

I repeat your comments are distorted and unhelpful

 

[oliverwri]

Is it an irony really or is it orientalism that makes you think Turks are just products of a stereotype?

Anyway, I studied for my PhD in London for 4 years, and I call myself socialist and internationalist. As you said, we shall just carry on.

It's a bit silly to cry racism when someone disagrees with your opinion about which football leagues are best. And when I say silly, I mean utterly ridiculous. Argue with evidence rather than this nonsense

 

[roydo]

Is it an irony really or is it orientalism that makes you think Turks are just products of a stereotype?

Anyway, I studied for my PhD in London for 4 years, and I call myself socialist and internationalist. As you said, we shall just carry on.

Good for you.

You lobbed the racist shout. Not us.

Most of us see a footballer not being given a chance.

 

[artena_condari]

It's a bit silly to cry racism when someone disagrees with your opinion about which football leagues are best. And when I say silly, I mean utterly ridiculous. Argue with evidence rather than this nonsense

So if Everton got Tosun from Bayern Leverkusen then the reactions that are given here will be not different? If that is the case, I am sorry but I am quite doubtful about that.

 

[billyblue80]

I think he needs a run to get settled before we judge. Get as safe as we can then start him every game.