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2017/18 Cenk Tosun

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Anyway, I don't get what you are meaning - maybe it is because of language barrier or just you being pricks. It is up to you whether you'll use Cenk or not; but he knows he always have a home at Besikas; so he is never up to you; Besiktas has the power get him back anytime.

So if you like to watch DCL or Niasse, keep going.
 
artena_condari said:
Anyway, I don't get what you are meaning - maybe it is because of language barrier or just you being pricks. It is up to you whether you'll use Cenk or not; but he knows he always have a home at Besikas; so he is never up to you; Besiktas has the power get him back anytime.

So if you like to watch DCL or Niasse, keep going.
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LOL

Hes ours till we sell him to Sunderland.
 
artena_condari said:
Anyway mate, here is my ranking for leagues of Europe:

1) Premier League
2) La liga
3) Serie A
4) Bundesliga
5) Turkish League
6) Ligue 1 (French League)

and so on. You may agree or not but for Everton's sake, just give the benefit of doubt. If not, then just boo whenever Cenk gets time in a game, I am sure that will contribute to Everton!
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There's an objective ranking you know... Turkey is tenth.

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Haha, no wonder Besiktas fans are more sympathetic towards Liverpool; they are fans of working class. When you encounter comments of petite-bourgeoisie like this; you become disgusted. I will be in London at May mate, come and say these arrogant things at a pub at London; we will be both happy :)
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typical turkish holigan nonsense. inviting for a "say it to my face" thing after exiting an discussion which u behave so subjective and nationalist.
these discussions about cenk in here is meaningless FOR NOW because if he scores after he get in 85.minute, all the stuff written negative turn backwards. and also as a besiktas fan I can understand the common negative comments about him, but I can't understand some issues like this:

1- team played so defensive and in the little time he had and obviously he is not a counter attack striker so is it healhty to judge him now?
2- sam gives opinions on him but he is not doing his best as judging players who must be in senior squad and his decisions are losing games one by one. so how can anyone trust his comments on players? or his capability on coaching them?
3- people judging cenk about he came from lower standarts and he is not good for EPL. do you have any support on this argument from what you see on what he played in everton? is he looks like a crap player when he plays?
4- It's obvious that cenk got the potential to be good I think. You don't see it in him, or you just got no patience?
 
emik said:
typical turkish holigan nonsense. inviting for a "say it to my face" thing after exiting an discussion which u behave so subjective and nationalist.
these discussions about cenk in here is meaningless FOR NOW because if he scores after he get in 85.minute, all the stuff written negative turn backwards. and also as a besiktas fan I can understand the common negative comments about him, but I can't understand some issues like this:

1- team played so defensive and in the little time he had and obviously he is not a counter attack striker so is it healhty to judge him now?
2- sam gives opinions on him but he is not doing his best as judging players who must be in senior squad and his decisions are losing games one by one. so how can anyone trust his comments on players? or his capability on coaching them?
3- people judging cenk about he came from lower standarts and he is not good for EPL. do you have any support on this argument from what you see on what he played in everton? is he looks like a crap player when he plays?
4- It's obvious that cenk got the potential to be good I think. You don't see it in him, or you just got no patience?
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Oh mate, you are an orientalist to your very own self. It is a shame. I believe you are an Erdogan supporter in which this kind of contradictions are quite common. A fella who has no idea of being independent; wihch has no conception of making his decisions. He talks as major discourse dictates.
 

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So do you really think Russia league is better than Porteguese? Or Belgium better than Netherlands? Consider carefully mate.
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Eh yes and atm you won't find a Dutchman who would disagree about that. Not that it's hard btw, the Eredivisie is at an all-time low. You find many articles about it in the AD (Algemeen Dagblad) etc. Doesn't matter though.

The only objective way is looking at the Uefa ranking, that's based on matches between the clubs from different competitions across a longer time period. So it's accurate enough for me.

For instance 2015; Besiktas went out of the Europa League against Club Brugge. (2-1 and 3-1 wins for Club Brugge). Influences the ranking a bit.
 

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