2018/19 Cenk Tosun

[havrey0123]

Corrected

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[Pabbers]

Debatable. I’m not sure the group stages of the CL are a higher level than the PL personally, but I take your point. I wasn’t really saying he’s stepped up a level though, simply that at a high level you can’t sit around waiting for chances to be presented like he has been doing. We’ve put decent balls into the box which he simply hasn’t looked like getting on the end of.

He’s got one goal in his last thirteen games, but you’re saying it’s just one game. Laughable.

He needs to score more, thats for certain.

But It really is only 1 game he has wasted chances. He has played well in the ither aspects of his game.

He is not alone in needing to step up.

But i feel they all need our suport right now.

 

[Groucho]

Strikers should score goals aye?

 

[havrey0123]

 

[kenada_blue]

..no, I disagree. Richarlison is a top 6 player we’ve attracted, plenty of top clubs were after Bernard. Lots will depend on whether a player we’re after has other options but I think you underestimate the pull of the Premier League and the pull of a club like Everton.

Well, that's slightly over doing it IMO.

We've been stung plenty of times for players who don't see us as a top club.

 

[deipnosophist]

Well, that's slightly over doing it IMO.

We've been stung plenty of times for players who don't see us as a top club.

...what you're saying is you think that @Eggs may be over-egging it...

 

[Timak]

He ran very hot last year (scored way more goals than would be expected given his chances) and the opposite so far this year.

Perfectly normal.

It was even predicted by the same person who pointed out the issue with Sandro.

https://differentgame.wordpress.com...n-bruno-wayne-kieron-john-liverpool-and-cenk/

 

[toffeejack]

If auto correct worked it would have typed that he's a bang average striker, and I would have agreed.

He's nothing great no and I said when we signed him we'd still need a top top striker ahead of him to do anything. But he's not lower league standard.

 

[Kever10]

He's really really not, hence why one is playing for Hearts after a terrible spell in the championship and one is playing for everton

tosun has had a miserable couple of games but Naismith was a dog

We sold Naismith because we received an offer we couldn't refuse, given we signed him on a free transfer 4 years earlier and he wasn't getting any younger or going to improve. And it was also pre Moshiri, so we had to sell to buy.

We sold him to another Premier league team who were fighting relegation and gave us good money. I'm sure we had aspirations of improving on him when we did sell him, but it hasn't really worked out like that has it.

If you can honestly tell me Naismith wasn't more effective and more of a goal threat than this fella, even when played out of position in midfield, you are clearly incredibly blinkered and biased. Not only was he a better finisher, he did it against top teams as well. Tosun doesn't even turn up against lower teams more than half the time.

As for where Naismith is now playing, the fact he's not playing top level at 32 having had an ACL injury before we signed him is hardly surprising, and he is Scottish, so going back there is hardly some massive reach. It's a very dismissive argument, and has no bearing on the comparison of Tosuns ability.

Tosun for me, has done little to suggest he's going to improve. You can play well and not score, plenty of forwards can improve a team with movement, intelligence, hold up play, pace, winning the ball in the air, pulling defenders out of position to create space for others, neat interchange with other attacking players, etc. He does none of this, and his positioning and strikers instincts are almost non existent. He is in many ways, very similar to Sandro.

Sometimes, you can see bad form for what it is, things not falling for him, bad luck, etc. I don't see it with him, so I'm not confident it will fix itself with time.

I hope I'm wrong, but like Sigurdsson, we should be looking at better, or younger with room to grow and improve... preferably both.

Unfortunately, like last year, we have played ourself into a position where we are now desperate for points on the board, especially given the relative easy start we have messed up, so that throwing the younger players in at the deep end with our toxic crowd would be suicide. So we are stuck with going with "experience".

 

[Debaser]

I can not believe the support this guy gets, sorry. He is not 'bang average', he has had 'time' to prove himself, and stop with the 'he's isolated' crap.

Dean, Young, Royle, Latchford, Sharp, Gray, Lineker, Lukaku, TOSUN!

FFS. He is awful, no where near the standard we need, want or SHOULD have to put up with.

We MUST bring in at least TWO ST/CF's in the January transfer window, and as we have seen in the past, that is a terribly hard thing to pull off.

 

[marsh]

Please just start scoring. Im desperate for him to start banging them in

 

[orly]

Mad how much worse our strikers are at scoring goals since Rooney and Lukaku left.

Almost as if we've downgraded.

 

[Leeboy1974]

Would rather play Walcott through the middle mate, and keep Richarlison wide.

Yeah fair enough just don’t like niasse tosun or dcl

 

[ToffeeTim]

Mad how much worse our strikers are at scoring goals since Rooney and Lukaku left.

Almost as if we've downgraded.

And half the forum said we'd be fine selling Lukaku. Would give us a more rounded attack.

LOL

 

[4737carlin]

And half the forum said we'd be fine selling Lukaku. Would give us a more rounded attack.

LOL

If we replaced him we might of been but we havent, we had no choice on selling Lukaku and got real good money, that sale wasnt the problem, not buying another striker was. Three windows have gone by now without addressing this situation, I really hope we dont make it four. Brands has one job to do between now and January