Think about it Ghost, now think carefully. After tonight, Chelsea are highly unlikely to win a trophy this season unless they lift the FA Cup. Three days before the FA Cup Final on May 30th, the Champions League Final takes place. Chelsea being in that final would have considered that to be far more important than the FA Cup Final. Now, if they had have lost that final, they would have played three days before the Wembley showdown, being tired and out of confidence. Winning it they may just have been content, nevertheless, we would have been fresher whatever the outcome so you see, this game may just have had something to do with us.
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Champions League 2008/2009
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Think about it Ghost, now think carefully. After tonight, Chelsea are highly unlikely to win a trophy this season unless they lift the FA Cup. Three days before the FA Cup Final on May 30th, the Champions League Final takes place. Chelsea being in that final would have considered that to be far more important than the FA Cup Final. Now, if they had have lost that final, they would have played three days before the Wembley showdown, being tired and out of confidence. Winning it they may just have been content, nevertheless, we would have been fresher whatever the outcome so you see, this game may just have had something to do with us.
GhostOfDixie
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So basically you are saying we would have had a great chance of beating Chelsea if they were not in the CL final?
Ok, so ******* what? We have beaten good sides on the way through, does it matter? Chelsea would have put as much effort into the FA Cup as they would have in the CL.
I couldn't care less if Chelsea have a team of Messi's out there, we are capable of beating them on our day.
kenada_blue
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WHAT?
Listen. Chelsea were denied blatant penalties which went some way to prevent them reaching the final. End of story.
If you criticise any referee decision against Everton in future, I'll be sure to say "well, we should have won anyway irrespective of referee decisions" and be sure to divert you to this thread.
I said Barca were the better side over the 2 legs. You said "Its not how much of the ball you have, its what you do with it." Which is true to what I'm saying. What did Chelsea do with is? Miss chances. What did Barca do with it? Control the game, scored 1 goal with 1 shot got through to the final.
Divert me to this thread, I'll agree with it. I'll be upset, yes, but if we didnt do enough in the game to win and had to rely on a penalty that didnt go our way, I'll say we didnt deserve to win.
GhostOfDixie
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Well he needs to be more concerned with the our own team and how poorly they performed against a very weakened Man U side. We need to raise our game from that performance anyway. So I would think we would do the same regardless.
kenada_blue
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Then maybe we're not good enough to win the FA Cup then if we have to rely on what the opponents do days before the match.
GhostOfDixie
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Exactly.
Control the game?
Dear me.
Wouldn't go that far. If the referee wasn't out of his depth and completely wrong in key decisions, Barcelona were out.
Barcelona also didn't test Cech until the 92nd minute.
For me, relying on amazing luck in three penalties not being given and a last minute great strike, is not "controlling the game".
Far from it in fact.
GhostOfDixie
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He was out of his depth. That is the fact that is cold and hard.
davek
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Chelsea losing tonight having an impact on our Cup chances is debatable. Of more importance will be whether Moyes continues to persist in playing near full strength sides for these meaningless (sorry, top 5 trophy deciding) final few games putting players in harms way.
GhostOfDixie
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Yes. The only thing that will impact on our cup chances is who is banned and for how long.
Dont understand?
Any disciplinary action for Drogba and co will only be applied in European competitions - wont it? :huh:
GhostOfDixie
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Not sure to be honest. Are we not still governed by Uefa? We play by their rules, not the FA. The FA just enforce them.
The Esk
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David Moyes will be taking a very positive line on tonight. His thinking will be that Chelsea's season finished this evening - the FA Cup is scant consolation for Chelsea.
We showed at Stamford Bridge we can contain them and our hunger for victory will surely be greater than theirs - this FA Cup is ours for the taking - best result possible for us this evening - a last minute sickener for Chelsea.
We showed at Stamford Bridge we can contain them and our hunger for victory will surely be greater than theirs - this FA Cup is ours for the taking - best result possible for us this evening - a last minute sickener for Chelsea.
kenada_blue
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That's down to the ref not controlling the game. He should've give a peno, yes, but the fact that Chelsea hardly had a sniff of the ball and out to defend is Barcalona controlling the game pushing Chelsea back, Barca are now through.
Chelsea's tactics were good tonight, defend and hit on the break. Chelsea's goal was also a stroke of luck. The chances they created were easier to put away than Essien's goal and they didnt.
Even when Barca were 10 men down they pinned Chelsea back, and scored with 10 men.
If Chelsea were the better team, they'd have won. Peno shouts or not, they should've won without them. Cant rely on the ref to do favours.
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