Champions League 2008/2009

[steevie]

So basically you are saying we would have had a great chance of beating Chelsea if they were not in the CL final?

Ok, so ******* what? We have beaten good sides on the way through, does it matter? Chelsea would have put as much effort into the FA Cup as they would have in the CL.

I couldn't care less if Chelsea have a team of Messi's out there, we are capable of beating them on our day.

We still can and will beat Chelsea. What i am saying is the task is more difficult now with the potential of them being trophy less this season. Side's such as Chelsea dont take kindly to not winning silverware so this will make them more determined in the FA Cup Final. It's not rocket science lad.

 

[coolblue007]

Dont understand?

Any disciplinary action for Drogba and co will only be applied in European competitions - wont it? :huh:

I didn't think so either.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

We still can and will beat Chelsea. What i am saying is the task is more difficult now with the potential of them being trophy less this season. Side's such as Chelsea dont take kindly to not winning silverware so this will make them more determined in the FA Cup Final. It's not rocket science lad.

If's and but's.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

That's down to the ref not controlling the game. He should've give a peno, yes, but the fact that Chelsea hardly had a sniff of the ball and out to defend is Barcalona controlling the game pushing Chelsea back, Barca are now through.

Chelsea's tactics were good tonight, defend and hit on the break. Chelsea's goal was also a stroke of luck. The chances they created were easier to put away than Essien's goal and they didnt.

Even when Barca were 10 men down they pinned Chelsea back, and scored with 10 men.

If Chelsea were the better team, they'd have won. Peno shouts or not, they should've won without them. Cant rely on the ref to do favours.

:huh::blink:

Most baffling post I have ever read on here.

Chelsea can't rely on the ref to do favours?

Chelsea?

It was Barca who relied on the ref for favours.

Chelsea, as with all football teams, just relied on the referee to do his job.

But yes, on chances, they should have won anyway, but didn't you say Barca controlled the game?

 

[kenada_blue]

:huh::blink:

Most baffling post I have ever read on here.

Chelsea can't rely on the ref to do favours?

Chelsea?

It was Barca who relied on the ref for favours.

Chelsea, as with all football teams, just relied on the referee to do his job.

True. Its not a baffling post. Maybe its worded wrong, but all I'm saying is that -

Chelsea scored 1 and created clear cut chances, Drogba should've made it 2-0, easily. But he didnt. Then they're moaning and relying on the fact they should've got a penalty. The ref didnt give them. But if Chelsea had finished their chances, they would've won.

Barca had one chance, scored. Won the game. Will they be complaining that their two wing backs will miss the final? Why not? They were poor decisions too and might effect their final.

Did we kick up a stink about not getting a clear cut peno against Chelsea the other week? Thats forgotten about really.

All I'm saying is that tonight, Chelsea created enough not to rely on a ref to give them penos they did or didnt deserve.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Going to have to forget this Kenada, I am getting more and more baffled.

One last point though;

"Barca had one chance, scored"

So you admit Chelsea had the better chances and should of have three pens, but yet Barca controlled the game. What you mean is Barca had the greater possession - doesn't mean they control the game. Glad you said you may have worded your posts wrong... because some of what you have said really have surprised me.

Oh, wouldn't say it was "a chance" either - just a great strike..

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Going to have to forget this Kenada, I am getting more and more baffled.

One last point though;

"Barca had one chance, scored"

So you admit Chelsea had the better chances and should of have three pens, but yet Barca controlled the game. What you mean is Barca had the greater possession - doesn't mean they control the game. Glad you said you may have worded your posts wrong... because some of what you have said really have surprised me.

Oh, wouldn't say it was "a chance" either - just a great strike..

I think he is basically saying Chelsea failed to take their chances and Barca did, and did enough to win the game.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I think he is basically saying Chelsea failed to take their chances and Barca did, and did enough to win the game.

Hmmm, for me, Barca didn't create any chances. That was their problem, failure to convert possession to chances. They relied on good fortune and a last minute great strike.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Hmmm, for me, Barca didn't create any chances. That was their problem, failure to convert possession to chances. They relied on good fortune and a last minute great strike.

They did create a chance, and scored it. They had a 100% record of shots on target converted to goals.

Their problem was Alves having a shocker, and Eto being invisible.

 

[steevie]

I think he is basically saying Chelsea failed to take their chances and Barca did, and did enough to win the game.

And that is what it all boils down to, but for those suggest Barca where deserved winners of the tie and more so tonight is completely beyond me.

 

[kenada_blue]

Going to have to forget this Kenada, I am getting more and more baffled.

One last point though;

"Barca had one chance, scored"

So you admit Chelsea had the better chances and should of have three pens, but yet Barca controlled the game. What you mean is Barca had the greater possession - doesn't mean they control the game. Glad you said you may have worded your posts wrong... because some of what you have said really have surprised me.

Oh, wouldn't say it was "a chance" either - just a great strike..

I think he is basically saying Chelsea failed to take their chances and Barca did, and did enough to win the game.

Err....Pretty much what Ghost said there haha.

Anyway, I'd compare it to the Chelsea away game the other week.

In that game, who created the better chances? We did.
Should we have had a peno? Yes.
Did we controll that game? No.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

And that is what it all boils down to, but for those suggest Barca where deserved winners of the tie and more so tonight is completely beyond me.

So Chelsea deserved to win by defending for 2 games and showing hardly any desire to play the beautiful game?

 

[steevie]

So Chelsea deserved to win by defending for 2 games and showing hardly any desire to play the beautiful game?

Did Liverpool deserve to win the Champions League Final for playing just 7 of 120 minutes? Well they scored three goals in that period and had four shots at goal in total if you include the penalty rebound. They still played defensively so much so that Gerrard ended up playing at right back. Chelsea where far and away the most attacking team tonight mate, i dont know whether you where watching another game or just had too much wine.

 

[DaveBond21]

We still can and will beat Chelsea. What i am saying is the task is more difficult now with the potential of them being trophy less this season. Side's such as Chelsea dont take kindly to not winning silverware so this will make them more determined in the FA Cup Final. It's not rocket science lad.

Yes , they could be more determined about the Cup Final, but that is probably a good thing, both for the neutral and for Everton. If they come out and play, there could be gaps in their defence for Everton to exploit. I hope there is an early goal by Everton to open the game up.

 

[TX Bill]

It's alright.

ManU 2 - 0 Barcelona

That's my prediction.