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Lapeno77 said:
So the Sky opinion is it will be a significant enough punishment to sack a couple of middle managers at these 6 clubs bevause we don't want to hurt the fans. Unreal
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Sky have been ridiculous to listen to all week...like they've ever cared about fans of the other clubs...they cater to 2 sets of fans (Liverpool and United), because they're the 2 with the big fan base who'll pay for their product...
They talk about "fairness in football" and "competition"...haha thats laughable....is the Premier league fair competition?...sure technically anyone can win it, anyone can finish Top 4.....all you have to do is build your team with a transfer budget of 40m, while the top clubs spend 300m...all you have to do is win games even though the match officials are biased towards the big clubs...all you have to do is keep producing young talent because the big clubs have just taken your best player and sat him on their bench just to stop him doing any damage to them...all you have to do is not get injuries or fade through tiredness towards the end of the season when you've a small squad and the big clubs have had the luxury of rotating their players all season...

We've had about 30 years of the Premier league now....and only once has a team outside the big clubs won it (Blackburn were big spenders when they won it)...even 'Big 6' Spurs haven't won it...
But yeah, it's fair competition, and what football is all about..
 

N.S.N.O. said:
Sky have been ridiculous to listen to all week...like they've ever cared about fans of the other clubs...they cater to 2 sets of fans (Liverpool and United), because they're the 2 with the big fan base who'll pay for their product...
They talk about "fairness in football" and "competition"...haha thats laughable....is the Premier league fair competition?...sure technically anyone can win it, anyone can finish Top 4.....all you have to do is build your team with a transfer budget of 40m, while the top clubs spend 300m...all you have to do is win games even though the match officials are biased towards the big clubs...all you have to do is keep producing young talent because the big clubs have just taken your best player and sat him on their bench just to stop him doing any damage to them...all you have to do is not get injuries or fade through tiredness towards the end of the season when you've a small squad and the big clubs have had the luxury of rotating their players all season...

We've had about 30 years of the Premier league now....and only once has a team outside the big clubs won it (Blackburn were big spenders when they won it)...even 'Big 6' Spurs haven't won it...
But yeah, it's fair competition, and what football is all about..
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FCBarça said:
Nah, nothing dubious - I am not a proponent of him as coach but he gave great feedback, IMHO


"The European Super League? I spoke with the President yesterday about this issue and he explained me the position of the club. But there's been a lot of movement since yesterday, so I think it's better not to comment. I'm not the spokesperson of the club. I don't know how this topic will end. At the end of the day, we want the best for the club."

"I don't want to speak a lot about this issue but I'm in agreement with Pique's tweet." [Gerard Pique tweet - Football belongs to the fans. Today more than ever.]

"We've been talking about a possible European competition for a long time. In the Netherlands there is also talk of having a joint championship between the Netherlands and Belgium. It's complicated. There are many things in football that don't have to be changed."

"I agree what Pep said about the numbers of games. It's unbelievable. UEFA aren't listening to the managers and players about the number of games. For UEFA money is the most important thing. You have to protect the players."
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Well stop spending 100+ on players and paying over 500k per week on another player yet being £1.1 billion in debt.

No wonder they wanted (& still do) the Super League.
Should be banned like other clubs have been.
 

Ruairi77 said:
haven't posted in a while but just thought I'd rant a bit about this ESL and LFC.
I listened to Henry's mealy mouthed apology this morning and noticed that not once did he apologize to the wider football world or to the other clubs and fans that he was shafting.

I moved to Boston 13 years ago and made a concerted effort to get in to American sports. The Red Sox story was quite remarkable. A few years earlier they had considered flattening Fenway and moving to the burbs, but Henry took over, saw its value, invested and won the club a hand full of titles for the first time in generations. Fenway reminded me of Goodison, you can sense the ghosts of players and fans past in the place. It's pretty special. I saw the Sox steel home to beat the Yankees there in a night game. It was great.

Then, as blue bill scavenged around for investment, FSG turned their sights on that lot across the park. I knew henry would win them a title. To rub salt in the wound, his first game as boss would be at Goodison. I wish the yak could have shoulder barged him in to oblivion. Then they put up Shankley gates outside Fenway and Liverpool started coming every Summer. Their fan base was growing fast.
Why couldn't FSG just have invested in Everton?
Well thank you Bill for waiting for the right buyer. And thank god FSG have nothing to do with Everton.
They have intentionally blighted parts of Anfield for profit.
They tried to copyright the name 'Liverpool' and the liver bird.
They stood behind Suares with t-shirts.
They started project big picture last season and no one said a thing
and this year they tried to steal football.

As Evertonians, we've stood with their club (and rightly so) in the fight for justice for the 96 and boycotting the sun, and in response they didn't give a second thought what effect their actions would have on their neighbors. They knew well about BMD and the steps we're making. It was just added incentive to pull up the ladder.

And I don't want to hear a thing about how hard it must have been for Klopp or Henderson. Klopp could have said what Guardiola did but he didn't. Henderson could have voiced opposition to this when Richarlison did, but he didn't.
And I don't want to hear a thing about fans of the 6 clubs saving football. OK Chelsea fans, where's the protest to get Abramovic out??

There was always a fierce rivalry between our club and LFC but a weird bickering brothers thing also going on. Not for me any more.
They are a vile club, rotton.

UEFA should ban all 12 from europe for a few seasons and if this coefficient wild card thing does happen, all 12 should be banned from qualifying that way for 10 years. The 3 respective leagues should deduct points. And don't give me this 'fans suffer' nonsense. All these fans have had amazing champions league nights on the back of their wealthy greedy owners. It's payback time.

What's more likely to happen is that they will be fined which won't bother them in the slightest and there will be a sub committee set up to select a committee to oversee an investigation in to the possibility of establishing an oversight committee, in other words, nothing.

I'm so proud of how Everton handled this. We can be a bit of a mess on the pitch but they generally do an excellent job deciphering the difference between right and wrong off it.
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Welcome back and please post more.
 
emir said:
These 12 clubs are the biggest assets for UEFA, they can't just shoot their business model in the leg like that. Ceferin already starting sucking off City's tits as soon as the news broke that City left ESL. At most, these 12 clubs will be hit with a fine, similar to the fines PSG/City had to pay for FFP.
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They need culling and would be replaced in time (uefa hate city anyway - don't forget they were in league 2 not so long ago, ffp was built to stop city and it failed) - shove this "biggest asset" and business model crap where the sun don't shine fella.

These clubs tried to kill uefa and the game of association football.

Uefa needs to go as well, not fit for purpose.
 

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