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Champions League revamp

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Martin Alvito said:
Should the 12 succeed, it would ruin UEFA financially. It would seriously compromise the remaining 14's finances, perhaps to the point of shuffling many of them out of the top flight over the course of several seasons - though I would bet on them rewriting the rules to give themselves a fighting chance.

If this had happened over years rather than months, they could better prepare at the cost of playing dead in the league along the way, which would cost them some fans and some cachet after the split.



You explicitly mentioned UEFA and the 12 as the parties, so I responded to that.



To be fair, Johnson was 100% in the Glazers' camp until Sunday. The reaction forced Johnson to reconsider. But I still think it was intensely stupid of Woodward to take a meeting at 10 Downing last week, as it gave Johnson a massive imperative to convincingly distance himself by crushing them before that fact came to light.
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Why would Johnson be up for this and where did u get this info from?
 
catcherintherye said:
Yes. And I will say this, it would not be unusual in such scenarios, particularly if you have broken contracts in a way that is not pre-agreed, that you are very often to all sorts of payments due to people you've given guarantees too.

They've all got themselves in massively too deep here.
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Yep.

They got absolute bladdered, pulled an ugly munta, and when they woke up, it slowly dawned on them that it wasnt their finest moment.

Thing is, United, Arse and RS didnt surprise me in the slightest.

The other 3 scabs did. And it has made me furious. Thats why I hope Spurs go bust. (City and Chelsea obvs wont).
 
Martin Alvito said:
Should the 12 succeed, it would ruin UEFA financially. It would seriously compromise the remaining 14's finances, perhaps to the point of shuffling many of them out of the top flight over the course of several seasons - though I would bet on them rewriting the rules to give themselves a fighting chance.

If this had happened over years rather than months, they could better prepare at the cost of playing dead in the league along the way, which would cost them some fans and some cachet after the split.



You explicitly mentioned UEFA and the 12 as the parties, so I responded to that.



To be fair, Johnson was 100% in the Glazers' camp until Sunday. The reaction forced Johnson to reconsider. But I still think it was intensely stupid of Woodward to take a meeting at 10 Downing last week, as it gave Johnson a massive imperative to convincingly distance himself by crushing them before that fact came to light.
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I explicitly mentioned UEFA as they have the power to punish

The 12 are redundant now. There are only 4 (or is it 3 now?) teams refusing to leave. These are the teams I was referring to as was the post I was referencing
 

catcherintherye said:
I'm really not sure we can say what will or won't happen, or that 300m is merely from a hysterical headline. I'm pretty sure Perez quoted it exactly.

I have a suspicion there will be quite a bit to pay, beyond the 8m exit fee, and there is going to be quite a lot of argument about who foots set bill.

At present the 8m, 130m and 300m all have similar validity (just that the 300m came from a more reputable source).
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they have just signed Konate by all accounts - it’s not the 130 or the 300
 
How many teams would it have took to join the Scab League before it would have worked? 8? 10? If they'd been offered the chance how many owners would have took the deal? A 2 division Euro Scab League with promotion/ relegation between them and a transition period of no dropping out of the bottom division before being replaced- would that have been more palatable? Big money to the top division to ensure they don't get sacked out of it by another franchise.

This has not been put to bed yet. The more I think about it, the more possible alternatives that achieve the same results become.

The Scab teams need putting out of business for this.
 

Blueclouds said:
Why would Johnson be up for this and where did u get this info from?
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Johnson explicitly backed the Glazers coming into the game on television. That clip was kicking around the thread earlier. I haven't seen him stake out a position since. I'm not saying that he was up for this, merely that they had his support as owners.

The meeting last Thursday between a deputy and Woodward where Woodward was introduced to Johnson looks bad. I seriously doubt that the ESL was discussed, though there are Labour MPs nosing about to get the minutes to prove it one way or the other.
 
Venger said:
I explicitly mentioned UEFA as they have the power to punish

The 12 are redundant now. There are only 4 (or is it 3 now?) teams refusing to leave. These are the teams I was referring to as was the post I was referencing
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Having gone back a bit further in the thread, I see that. In my defense, I'll say that an unmodified 'Scabs' comes across as the 12 and that third party links stop coming through after a couple of quotes. But 100%, I should have checked the previous post for enough context to fully grasp what you were saying.

What you have is a basic credibility problem - excluding the named clubs harms the value of future TV contracts via decreased ratings, so it's reasonable for the remaining holdouts to believe Ceferin won't actually go through with the actions in the threat. The rest of what I said about brinksmanship generally still applies.
 

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