Club Direction

[BlueSpartan54]

I don't subscribe to this idea of linear progression, I'm afraid. I don't think you need to finish 6th before you are allowed to finish in the top 4. I don't think Leicester, Wolves or Sheffield United subscribe to this idea either.

The objective is to win the league

I think this season the target has to be Europe.

If we had signed 3 players under 23 then i think supporters and players could see we were building the squad and accept 8th and missing out on europe. Then very high expectations for next summers transfer business to push us into the top 6 in the 21/22 season.

With the current rumours of;

Allan (29)
Florenzi (29)
Doucoure (27)

Its 3 short term signings whose wages wont be cheap. I think anything less than a european place would be failure.

Additionally, if we dont add to the 20-23 year old age group i think its a missed opportunity with so many quality players available this summer.

Anything other than winning premiership title is a failure.

 

[Goat]

Why 12th?

RW: Chiesa, Sarr, Diatta, Brooks
RB: Emerson, Aarons, Dalot


Any of those players in either position would improve us and theres obviously plenty more Brands/Ancelotti will know.

Just because players are at their peak or more experienced doesnt always make them better or the best fit.

Wouldnt Chiesa cost about 200m?

But none of those are anywhere near proven.

 

[LEONARD]

Everton's route map to success in the next 5 years.

 

[SerenityNigh]

I really can’t understand where this club is going at the moment.

It seems to be a patchwork of multiple “projects”.

In the last ~7.5 years the club has had:

8 Managers
2 Directors of Football (and a mess trying to figure out who was actually in charge of transfers over that time)
2 Directors/CEOs
2 Majority Shareholders

Not sure where you get the feeling of multiple projects, seems seamless to me. The only constants have been Kitbag and Contract Dave and the Park End moaners.

 

[LEONARD]

Bob's a toffee, and he knows the score.

 

[Zatara]

Wouldnt Chiesa cost about 200m?

But none of those are anywhere near proven.

Those players would all improve us...

Theyre all far superior to Walcott or Coleman/Kenny.

Not sure on Chiesas fee but you never know how much we have to spend after sales...Bailey is another of course who seems to be available.

I wonder if it was Allan + Doucoure OR Gabriel...

There may be another £20mil+ available before signings and that doesnt take into account our need for a RW player.

 

[Blue Parkender]

Pickford
New Holgate Branthwaite Nkounkou
New New Gordon
Kean DCL Richarlison
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Im just throwing them into a formation but if we signed 3 u23 players rather than Allan/Doucoure/Florenzi then we would actually have an 11 of high potential outfield players all under 23.

Thats half a squad.

Im hoping that these 3 coming in means we are going to have stability and aim to add in more young players to the squad over the next 3 seasons.

Think we would have to give them time to gell Carlo wants us to compete now as he won't want to hang around to long.

 

[billyblue80]

I wouldn't read too much into last seasons positions at all. We improved massively under Carlo and anything once it all restarted wasn't relevant to us. We know why that was done. I think those games let Carlo have a good look at us, he will have a plan.

Hopefully and it's not about convincing me I am an Everton fan. Its convincing players who want to take a step up that we are more attractive than Wolves, Leicester, Arsenal and Spurs... not easy... hence it's easier said to get emerging talent than done when we don't have the basics in place yet. Hence why we are looking at some more mature players.

 

[D*ck Solomon]

Hopefully and it's not about convincing me I am an Everton fan. Its convincing players who want to take a step up that we are more attractive than Wolves, Leicester, Arsenal and Spurs... not easy... hence it's easier said to get emerging talent than done when we don't have the basics in place yet. Hence why we are looking at some more mature players.

The problem with bringing in emerging talent now is that if they 'emerge' and have a good season or two then someone will buy them and reap the benefits before we can sue them to challenge. I am all aboard the 26/30 age bracket right now.

 

[Hickson9]

It seems like we are looking for players who will come in and actually contribute on the pitch, for the duration of Ancelotti's time until we are in Bramley Moore.

 

[flibbyflob]

Everton's route map to success in the next 5 years.

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Thought Villa were by spaghetti junction?

 

[billyblue80]

The problem with bringing in emerging talent now is that if they 'emerge' and have a good season or two then someone will buy them and reap the benefits before we can sue them to challenge. I am all aboard the 26/30 age bracket right now.

Or they are so young they offer very little. We can't gamble this summer.

 

[Zatara]

Think we would have to give them time to gell Carlo wants us to compete now as he won't want to hang around to long.

The problem with bringing in emerging talent now is that if they 'emerge' and have a good season or two then someone will buy them and reap the benefits before we can sue them to challenge. I am all aboard the 26/30 age bracket right now.

Or they are so young they offer very little. We can't gamble this summer.

Theres 3 general types of young players;

-- first team ready with top potential
-- squad ready with top potential
-- u23s level or below and need to be developed

Someone like Sarr at Watford walks into our team.
Max Aarons walks into our team

Etc etc

Going for Allan/Doucoure/Florenzi is fine as long as we achieve short term targets which needs to be european football.

Also if we sign those 3 then we must focus back on u23 players and keep building the mid-long term future of the club

 

[Martin Alvito]

The objective is to win the league

Anything other than winning premiership title is a failure.

Good to see you, Mr. Abramovich.

 

[Jamalio Danubio DiCanio]

I agree broadly with what you're saying, but I think you're massively underselling the lure of the PL. Not only is it the most watched league in the world, it also pays the biggest wages. Young players would jump at the chance to come to an established PL club and play regularly. I think if promised a set number of games by both clubs more players would come to Everton ahead of Lille. That's the issue though, the fact that the PL is more cutthroat in terms of managerial sackings and financial incentives means players are less likely to be given time to develop, and so Lille becomes a more attractive proposition.

Agree with this mostly.

Think lure of PL will bring some players. I think the issue is that most PL teams have money to pay high wages and keep players. Hard to sell yourself as a stepping stone club if you then don't let players leave when bigger clubs come calling (at the right price of course). I think it's easier to sell Lille, Ajax or RBL or even Dortmund to a young player who has aspirations of reaching a Top 10 club eventually since they have a track record of (a) developing these players in the right environment, and (b) will sell players at a reasonable price.

Would the fans accept being a buy to sell club that develops young players? That would affect (a).

Would the club's ambitions accept being a buy to sell club? That would affect (a) and (b).

I think we can do it a different way, more like Spurs. But it's a slow build of many years, getting things correct th vast majority of the time. Not much about the current structure of the club indicates that the people in place have the vision, strategy and ability to get decisions correct on a routine and regular basis.