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Depressing isn't it, especially as they are meant to be valued around £550 in normal circumstances
PC gaming is horrible value for money as it stands, at least from a hardware perspective.
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Depressing isn't it, especially as they are meant to be valued around £550 in normal circumstances
PC gaming is horrible value for money as it stands, at least from a hardware perspective.
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Death
I'll take down dat coal powered MG, I tel u Hwat
I'm two trophies away from plat. Need two other endings
I pretty much know the Hornet inside and out, so if you have any questions....
Prices are tumbling atm, shop around! You should be able to get them at or near MSRP right now!!!
dholliday
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VR's the only serious way i play now...actively standing, swinging, turning, even taking steps...been a revolution in our household.
Boxing via Thrill Of The Fight is a real workout. I clear the living-room to make a 3x3m space, so enough to move about a bit: shimmy and look for openings etc.
Skyrim VR is a revelation! standard version always bored me, but now i'm actually in it...love using the bow 'n arrow.
Lone Echo (space-station sci-fi) i've started too, first hour or so...impressive so far. X:Rebirth for VR spaceship-flying...tho' i think @Dylan prefers Elite Dangerous.
They need to make a cricket game!
I understand the many reasons why VR isn't for everyone...not least that many gamers just wanna relax sitting down with a drink and a smoke. But me i'm loving the intense active physical nature of the play.
Every passionate gamer should at least try it. It's truly next-level stuff...a far more profound leap for the gaming-experience than 90's pioneering 3D-titles (i.e. Tomb Raider, Mario 64) were over 2D side-scrollers.
For the record i use either Rift S or Pimax 5K (depending on game) with 5600x/3060ti combi...plenty power. And Quest 2 for mobile. Apparently Valve make the best controllers, so might get them for the Pimax if a certain game finally releases....
....any day now lol
Blueclouds
Player Valuation: £35m
Not played any pcvr ganes,no pc. Quest 2 ruined flat screen gaming for me now as I rather be in the game. I'm peeking round corners and shooting monks with my arrows, sneaking up on roofs, panicking when I run into a mob. Vr is next level for me.
h8kurdt
Player Valuation: £1m
Really good game. Its bloody hard though. I resorted to watching a YouTube video to get past one bit. Let's just say the video made it look doubly easier than it is. It's not Ellen ring hard, mind! They've still made it fun to play.
Looks amazing too.
Baines' left foot
Player Valuation: £90m
The best price I’ve seen here is £750 which is £100 above MSRP.
Still a bit to go but prices have dropped considerably.
dholliday
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Yeah love that! So truly immersive...getting behind cover and physically ducking! My knees didn't like it but they're getting used to it.
Quest 2 is so impressive. RE4 has almost PS3-quality graphics, and crucially plays at a decent constant refresh rate while dropping no frames, even during hot action. The tracking of the controllers is excellent, so smooth and near to no errors. Oculus controllers themselves are much better than the bulky unwieldy Valve wands, or the unergonomical PSVR Move sticks. The Guardian (that self-made protective grid of your play area) remains stable and visible when required. Tho' during some hectic knifing of flying bugs i still managed to smash the controller against the wall...yikes...but no damage.
Unfortunately, many developers aren't convinced it's worth it to develop VR games. Egosoft (who make the X space games and converted X:Rebirth to VR) reported that their sales was just a fraction of their flat games, and hence they won't be making any more VR fits. Frictional Games, cult horror developer, decided to make their latest Amnesia title merely flat as they don't see a market in VR (yet).
Half Life: Alyx...despite being the first HL game in over a decade, remains unplayed by the majority of even Half-Life fans. Tho' it did sell 2 million copies within its first year. But it's still not clear if Valve will develop another VR title at all. Portal VR tests didn't cut it so that project appears dumped, apparently there was too much user-disorientation when going through the portals. There's rumours the Playstation VR2 (out by Xmas) will host Alyx. Sony's headset will be interesting to follow, It will be wired, mind...
Long-term: PC VR Headsets will have to figure out a reliable local WiFi solution (maybe via dedicated dongle) as playing wired after enjoying the Quest is a bit of a downer.
Curiously...according to Steam-stats VR gamers represent less than 2% of total active users, but in checking this they do an agreed-upon hardware-survey...when they did mine i didn't have a headset usb-connected at the time, so i went into the statistic as a non-VR user.
Add in the global chip shortage, pandemic and now Ukraine crisis - plus Facebook's insistence on developing the 'metaverse' (VR Facebook, essentially) - the future of high-end VR-gaming is not so clear.
On the other hand, the accessible Quest 2 has sold over 10 million since release, and Resident Evil 4 VR is the fastest-selling VR title ever, and probably will be nudging past Alyx soon in total sales. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas is confirmed as the next noughties classic to get the Quest VR conversion...no news on release date yet.
Some observers say the key to VR mainstream success will be remaking these classics first...I think I agree. The chance to 'be inside' a beloved game in our nostalgia-longing culture could be the trigger for many flat gamers to get on board.
Interesting times.
Used to pummel the original two on the Megadrive...what a soundtrack! Got it on CD.
Now a Streets of Rage in VR...holy moly.
dholliday
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Further reading on the state of the VR market which quotes data that suggests VR is no longer niche, and heading towards the mainstream:
dataprot.net
On the other hand, this forum discussion probably reflects majority opinion on why VR may remain niche after all:
So... how come no one talks about Half Life: Alyx anymore?
Namely prohibitive cost, and more profoundly:
37 Virtual Reality Statistics That Prove the Future is Now
Not too long ago, VR was a thing of Sci-Fi movies. Today, it's a massive, booming industry -23 million VR-related jobs will open by 2030.
dataprot.net
On the other hand, this forum discussion probably reflects majority opinion on why VR may remain niche after all:
So... how come no one talks about Half Life: Alyx anymore?
Namely prohibitive cost, and more profoundly:
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VR will be niche for a long time to come imo. The tech is still very new and unpolished. The image quality is still substandard even on the best headsets and miles off being where it needs to be for mainstream adoption. They are still uncomfortable to wear and obviously will always be hugely impractical to use for a sizeable portion of the population. Who wants to come from from hard days work and strap on some sweaty dork goggles ? Not me. Also a large portion of people who try VR can’t adapt to it and get motion sickness etc.
On top of that it sucks for shooting games etc and only really works well and feels natural in things like racing and flight sims or games where you are in a fixed position the entire time.
People saying it will be mainstream in a few years are deluded imo
On top of that it sucks for shooting games etc and only really works well and feels natural in things like racing and flight sims or games where you are in a fixed position the entire time.
People saying it will be mainstream in a few years are deluded imo
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Cheapest in U.K. is like £800 unfortunately