Conspiracy theories

[malcson]

It underpins one of the reasons that I would raise an eyebrow.

I happen to think that holding the military games in Wuhan, down the road from a massive coronavirus testing lab in Wuhan, at the exact same time that Bill Gates is coordinating his coronavirus worldwide pandemic simulation, a few weeks before a new coronavirus outbreak occurs in Wuhan, which leads to a worldwide pandemic, happens to be a tad suspicious.

If Bill Gates ends up saving the day via mandatory vaccination, I'll be raising an eyebrow.

See even saying it was a Coronavirus Simulation is an attempt to make it sound suspicious. It was simulating an unspecified pandemic, something that’s been predicted for decades. Is the date overlap a coincidence, yes and that’s all it is a coincidence. The world is full of them!https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/about

 

[Yarrgh]

Not even Carlo Ancelotti is into raising his eyebrows as much as people in this thread.

 

[Dymak]

See even saying it was a Coronavirus Simulation is an attempt to make it sound suspicious. It was simulating an unspecified pandemic, something that’s been predicted for decades. Is the date overlap a coincidence, yes and that’s all it is a coincidence. The world is full of them!https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/about

No, it was specifically ‘simulating’ a coronavirus pandemic.

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/scenario.html

The Event 201 scenario
Event 201 simulates an outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic.

 

[WA Toffee]

No, it was specifically ‘simulating’ a coronavirus pandemic.

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/scenario.html

The Event 201 scenario
Event 201 simulates an outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic.

Have you ever been involved in contingency planning? The purpose of it is to describe a plausible disaster so that preparations can be made beforehand. It is not a coincidence that he did a scenario based on a virus, it is good governance. It is done every day around the world.

Although it would have been more realistic if he chose China instead of Brazil, or pangolins instead of pigs, or didnt claim that it was a virus for which there is already medication. But hey, it's probably best just to ignore all those because the scenario had the word Coronavirus in it and that is just too much of a coincidence.

 

[trueblue84]

No, it was specifically ‘simulating’ a coronavirus pandemic.

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/scenario.html

The Event 201 scenario
Event 201 simulates an outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic.

Do you think SARS and MERS are man-made as well?

Its interesting that conspiracy theorists don't mind these viruses, which are very similar to covid-19, because it didn't affect them.

 

[Dymak]

Have you ever been involved in contingency planning? The purpose of it is to describe a plausible disaster so that preparations can be made beforehand. It is not a coincidence that he did a scenario based on a virus, it is good governance. It is done every day around the world.

Although it would have been more realistic if he chose China instead of Brazil, or pangolins instead of pigs, or didnt claim that it was a virus for which there is already medication. But hey, it's probably best just to ignore all those because the scenario had the word Coronavirus in it and that is just too much of a coincidence.

I have been involved in contingency planning, risk assessment and training exercises. I don't have much experience of the risk that is being assessed becoming a reality on the exact same day as the 'training exercise', like in the cases of 7/7 and 9/11. It just seems a bit, what is it? Coincidental, that's it!

The Military Drills on 9-11: “Bizarre Coincidence” or Something Else? | Request PDF

Request PDF | The Military Drills on 9-11: “Bizarre Coincidence” or Something Else? | Short-term military simulations of scenarios or conditions that U.S. military personnel might meet are generally the largest, in terms of cost and... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

I'm more than open to being referred to all the other simulations for the pandemic scenario, seeing as it's been a known risk for hundreds of years. I've been looking for Event 200 and Event 199, but I can't find them, do you know where they are? The only one that keeps coming up is the one which was simulated on the same day that the military games started in Wuhan. The one which took place a few weeks before the outbreak of the novel coronavirus in Wuhan, and is widely accepted to be the cause of the pandemic.

 

[Dymak]

Do you think SARS and MERS are man-made as well?

Its interesting that conspiracy theorists don't mind these viruses, which are very similar to covid-19, because it didn't affect them.

I've never claimed that the virus was man made. I'm just open to the possibility that the virus could have derived form the massive coronavirus testing lab in Wuhan, either accidently or intentionally.

It's other people who seem to be very closed towards the possibility of the virus having derived from the massive coronavirus testing lab in Wuhan. They seem to almost become agitated unless the hypothesis that it originated from a food market in Wuhan is accepted unquestionably.

Food market in Wuhan = Yes, of course, the BBC told me.

Massive coronavirus testing laboratory in Wuhan = Don't be absurd! What are you? One of those conspiracy theorists, ha ha ha ha!

 

[WA Toffee]

I have been involved in contingency planning, risk assessment and training exercises. I don't have much experience of the risk that is being assessed becoming a reality on the exact same day as the 'training exercise', like in the cases of 7/7 and 9/11. It just seems a bit, what is it? Coincidental, that's it!

The Military Drills on 9-11: “Bizarre Coincidence” or Something Else? | Request PDF

Request PDF | The Military Drills on 9-11: “Bizarre Coincidence” or Something Else? | Short-term military simulations of scenarios or conditions that U.S. military personnel might meet are generally the largest, in terms of cost and... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

I'm more than open to being referred to all the other simulations for the pandemic scenario, seeing as it's been a known risk for hundreds of years. I've been looking for Event 200 and Event 199, but I can't find them, do you know where they are? The only one that keeps coming up is the one which was simulated on the same day that the military games started in Wuhan. The one which took place a few weeks before the outbreak of the novel coronavirus in Wuhan, and is widely accepted to be the cause of the pandemic.

Really? Of course you can't find event 200 or 199. They are not named in chronological order. I suppose you have also tried to look for Covid 18 and Covid 17 lol

Honestly mate, I really hope you are on a wind up

 

[trueblue84]

I've never claimed that the virus was man made. I'm just open to the possibility that the virus could have derived form the massive coronavirus testing lab in Wuhan, either accidently or intentionally.

It's other people who seem to be very closed towards the possibility of the virus having derived from the massive coronavirus testing lab in Wuhan. They seem to almost become agitated unless the hypothesis that it originated from a food market in Wuhan is accepted unquestionably.

Food market in Wuhan = Yes, of course, the BBC told me.

Massive coronavirus testing laboratory in Wuhan = Don't be absurd! What are you? One of those conspiracy theorists, ha ha ha ha!

But the general concensus amongst scientists is that it is not from the lab in wuhan. They are not the bbc, media in general or government agents.

 

[Dymak]

Really? Of course you can't find event 200 or 199. They are not named in chronological order. I suppose you have also tried to look for Covid 18 and Covid 17 lol

Honestly mate, I really hope you are on a wind up

So, you're not telling me that Event 200 and Event 199 don't exist are you? I'd have never thought it. How about any other pandemic simulation? Do you know where I can find one? Or are we just relying on the one that happened on the same day that the military games started in Wuhan a few weeks prior to the actual outbreak?

 

[Dymak]

But the general concensus amongst scientists is that it is not from the lab in wuhan. They are not the bbc, media in general or government agents.

Where is this 'general consensus' mate?

What have they based their 'general consensus' on?

I'm genuinely open to being pointed in the direction of the 'general consensus', as long as it is actually based on something.

At present, I don't see how they could possibly out rule an outbreak from the massive coronavirus testing lab in the province in which the outbreak started, especially if they are also going to go along with this "It must have come from the market narrative" at the same time.

I don't see how anyone (including me) can be assured of where this outbreak arrived from. But I'm not going to accept "It must have came form the market", when there is a massive coronavirus testing lab located down the road.

 

[trueblue84]

Where is this 'general consensus' mate?

What have they based their 'general consensus' on?

I'm genuinely open to being pointed in the direction of the 'general consensus', as long as it is actually based on something.

At present, I don't see how they could possibly out rule an outbreak from the massive coronavirus testing lab in the province in which the outbreak started, especially if they are also going to go along with this "It must have come form the market narrative" at the same time.

I don't see how anyone (including me) can be assured of where this outbreak arrived from. But I'm not going to accept "It must have came form the market", when there is a massive coronavirus testing lab located down the road.

The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2 - Nature Medicine

www.nature.com

 

[WA Toffee]

So, you're not telling me that Event 200 and Event 199 don't exist are you? I'd have never thought it. How about any other pandemic simulation? Do you know where I can find one? Or are we just relying on the one that happened on the same day that the military games started in Wuhan a few weeks prior to the actual outbreak?

Wow, this just gets madder and madder. What on earth are you going on about

If you want to have a discussion, I'm happy to have a discussion. But if you are just going to post random incoherent warbling, I'm out

 

[Dymak]

The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2 - Nature Medicine

www.nature.com

The study concludes:

"Although the evidence shows that SARS-CoV-2 is not a purposefully manipulated virus, it is currently impossible to prove or disprove the other theories of its origin described here. However, since we observed all notable SARS-CoV-2 features, including the optimized RBD and polybasic cleavage site, in related coronaviruses in nature, we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible. More scientific data could swing the balance of evidence to favor one hypothesis over another".

It seems confident that the virus hasn't been manipulated. It doesn't sound very confident in determining where the virus derived from. It talks about belief and hypothesis, and how more scientific data would be able to swing the balance to favour one hypothesis over another. It's literally admitting that it's own data isn't scientific enough to verify their own hypothesis or out rule another one.

 

[Dymak]

Wow, this just gets madder and madder. What on earth are you going on about

If you want to have a discussion, I'm happy to have a discussion. But if you are just going to post random incoherent warbling, I'm out

I'll help you out, and keep it simple so you can understand.

Please point me in the direction of all the other pandemic simulations, as the only one that keeps coming up is Event 201. The one that was produced on the same day of the military war games in Wuhan.