Conspiracy theories

[LostLegend]

The debunkers are the ones who don't want you to know. I wouldn't listen to them, if you follow Greers work, you'll know that what he says is true. I know this personally because I have had actual experiences of them too.

Greer has made some absolutely crazy claims over the years and does a fair bit of work with David Willcock, who is the same guy who claims the Mayan's weren't killed off by the Spanish conquistadors, but built a space ship out of stone, powered by psychic energy and flew off into space on it

Check him out, he's a total mental case.

 

[WA Toffee]

The debunkers are the ones who don't want you to know. I wouldn't listen to them, if you follow Greers work, you'll know that what he says is true. I know this personally because I have had actual experiences of them too.

Is this an example where you want the conspiracy to be true so you claim that anything that supports your point of view is proven, yet any scientific evidence to the contrary is made up?

As I alluded to above, innuendo, out of context sound bites and reverse assumptions are not a substitute for peer reviewed science.

For what its worth, I believe that there will be another planet somewhere with intelligent life on it. But not so strongly that I am going to deny science to “prove” it.

 

[Methuselah]

Just because you haven't saw anything doesn't mean nothings there though. Millions worldwide have seen them.

With a world population of 7.6 billion, the 'millions' who have seen them are very much in the minority, maybe even on a par with 'flat earthers'.lol

 

[SteveSC]

Vaccines work, with very little, if any, in the way of side effects.

Yes you should have a choice, but you'll find that most sensible people will have a vaccine. I have, my children have.

Idiots.

Mad isn't it.

My wife is expecting (our first) and so we have been in those classes (not sure its a UK or Ireland thing but here in the US it is haha!!) to give you an insight as to what goes on once she deliver in the hospital. When they do the Q&A most of it is spent with the Pediatrician trying to calm expecting mothers who think their baby will be effected by them.

One lady refused to pipe down no matter how he answered her. What was worse in the next part of the class several night later the same woman had a go at the next woman giving us useful information when she reached the Q&A.

 

[Groucho]

Mad isn't it.

My wife is expecting (our first) and so we have been in those classes (not sure its a UK or Ireland thing but here in the US it is haha!!) to give you an insight as to what goes on once she deliver in the hospital. When they do the Q&A most of it is spent with the Pediatrician trying to calm expecting mothers who think their baby will be effected by them.

One lady refused to pipe down no matter how he answered her. What was worse in the next part of the class several night later the same woman had a go at the next woman giving us useful information when she reached the Q&A.

Sounds like a total loon

 

[SteveSC]

Sounds like a total loon

Yep she was probably one of those likely to post in a conspiracy thread about UFO's haha!!

 

[Black Belt Jones]

Mad isn't it.

My wife is expecting (our first) and so we have been in those classes (not sure its a UK or Ireland thing but here in the US it is haha!!) to give you an insight as to what goes on once she deliver in the hospital. When they do the Q&A most of it is spent with the Pediatrician trying to calm expecting mothers who think their baby will be effected by them.

One lady refused to pipe down no matter how he answered her. What was worse in the next part of the class several night later the same woman had a go at the next woman giving us useful information when she reached the Q&A.

Do they give heroin as an analgesic for painful childbirth in the US? It is commonly used here in the UK, which surprised me when I went to one of those classes. Referred to as diamorphine, though, so they don't freak anyone out.

 

[SteveSC]

Do they give heroin as an analgesic for painful childbirth in the US? It is commonly used here in the UK, which surprised me when I went to one of those classes. Referred to as diamorphine, though, so they don't freak anyone out.

I don't think so. It wasn't mentioned as one of the drugs so not here in southern California anyway. Although thing is many hospitals here or medical groups have their own procedures and ways of doing things so i wouldn't be surprised if the group or another group we are not using does use it. Unless the DEA have it controlled or banned that is.

 

[deipnosophist]

Do they give heroin as an analgesic for painful childbirth in the US? It is commonly used here in the UK, which surprised me when I went to one of those classes. Referred to as diamorphine, though, so they don't freak anyone out.

Heroin is a morphine molecule twice acetylated -i.e. 2 molecules of acetic acid attached- hence diacetylmorphine or diamorphine for short

 

[Lee Smith]

Do they give heroin as an analgesic for painful childbirth in the US? It is commonly used here in the UK, which surprised me when I went to one of those classes. Referred to as diamorphine, though, so they don't freak anyone out.

I wondered why my wife insisted we had 27 kids

 

[ReiRei]

With a world population of 7.6 billion, the 'millions' who have seen them are very much in the minority, maybe even on a par with 'flat earthers'.lol

Okay that's going too far there pal haha

 

[ReiRei]

Greer has made some absolutely crazy claims over the years and does a fair bit of work with David Willcock, who is the same guy who claims the Mayan's weren't killed off by the Spanish conquistadors, but built a space ship out of stone, powered by psychic energy and flew off into space on it

Check him out, he's a total mental case.

hahaha, Wilcock is a tool

 

[riddick]

There are a shedload of them here. I live in the Fremantle area, which is renowned for the amount of hippies and alternative types. The community facebook page is often a thing of beauty where years and years of peer reviewed scientific reasearch can be totally undermined by one example of a friends neighbour's dog having a different outcome therefore that is proof that the science is lies

Love Freo, lived there for about 9 months almost a decade ago. Little Creatures still going there? Their pale ale was the best Australian beer I'd ever had.

 

[WA Toffee]

Love Freo, lived there for about 9 months almost a decade ago. Little Creatures still going there? Their pale ale was the best Australian beer I'd ever had.

Still there, and still the best beer in the country.

 

[miami]

Well, this was kind of my point, I just made it very flippantly.

Back in The Day (a.k.a when the Soviet's worried us) we spent a huge amount of money on what amounted to propaganda spending. So we did things like landed on the moon to prove how much better the American Way was over the Dirty Communist Way (or whatever). That was the real value in landing on the moon. And as this generation still remembered WWII and hadn't gotten entirely fed up with Vietnam and realpolitik, it was bought and lapped up. So we spent vast sums on R&D sorts of projects, like the space race. It also helped that we could toss in Fear of the Big Bad as a selling point. If we don't make it to the moon, those dirty Ruskies will go there and build a super base with nuclear missile launching capabilities, etc. etc. (I'm exaggerating wildly for effect).

Then 1980 came with Reagan and 'tax cuts'. The money got diverted into more purely military purposes - like the Star Wars Missile Defense program (and illegal wars in Central America). And we really did cut the hell out of taxes on the wealthy and on corporations. But things like Social Security and Medicare are untouchable, and were getting used more frequently. This led to us continuing our biggest expenditures (welfare and military spending) while decreasing the amount of money coming in. So things DID get cut, relatively. Things like NASA.

When the Soviet Union fell, the propaganda and fear elements lost their luster, and we were headed in the wrong directional fiscally. Rather than institute new taxes, we've basically been riding the private sector's ability to generate new wealth to keep our heads above water while slowly slipping further into debt.

Going to space is necessary for the long term survival of the human race. It is absolutely mandatory. But it is not something that matters in my lifetime, so we ignore it and hope it'll all be ok (hell, we'll be dead anyway, right?). That doesn't sell voters though, and we can't start spending money on NASA when so many other important and worthy causes are also underfunded and raising taxes is political suicide. Which is basically why we haven't been back.

An addendum: Going to the moon probably isn't the best thing for NASA to be doing anyway. There are things that would yield far more important findings and research than something we did 40+ years ago and aren't ready (technologically) to colonize yet (if it's ever possible given the moon's particulars).

I think you'll find that a little something called 'the van allen radiation belts' render space travel beyond low earth orbit virtually impossible. If anyone really believes America sent astronauts to the moon, they are living in la la land. Endless evidence is there for all to see how and why they faked it. The only 'evidence' we have of the moon landings are the fuzzy, black and white, low-grade third-hand pictures supposedly 'filmed' from the moon....even though they were able to use a hugely superior colour video camera that filmed shots inside the rocket. A bit odd that aint it? one of the thousands of anomalies associated with the so called 'moon landings'. And yes, the word from the US government and nasa that they did it; Two upstanding, noble and believable institutions which can be relied on to tell the truth....................................