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Conspiracy theories

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Old Blue 2 said:
1. You see this where people jump to conclusions. All I have ever done is to present things, and say, draw your own conclusions.

2. I haven't said it wasn't a plane. Take a look at vids and draw your own conclusions. In the link I provided, the person said there were no aircraft into Towers 1 & 2 - I don't subscribe to that. BUT, there were certain things reported about the actual incident with Tower 2 that merit consideration.

3. If the wherewithal is there to do so, anything can be installed anywhere. As I have said before in the last few pages, don't have a closed mind, keep an open mind about things.

4. Eye witnesses see what they think they see. Oftentimes seeing things in an instant. All over silver? Tyres silver? Handlebars silver? Seat silver? See where this is going? Yes, eyewitnesses often get some details wrong, I agree. The worst thing for any investigator is when everybody says exactly the same thing. Then the matter of collusion raises its head...
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I know I am veering off topic a tad. And I agree with your "keep an open mind" mantra.

But during the whole Brexit fiasco, the last thing you had was an "Open mind".
 
verreauxi said:
Everyone in Shanksville PA was in on it: the locals who reported the crash, the first responders in the form of local, county, and state police, the EMTs, the bystanders, then later the local TSA agents...in total about 1000 people were in on the coverup. It was very easy to coordinate in 2001 when few people had cell phones. You just showed up to this secret meeting and the government officials said, "Hey, look, we're gonna fake-crash a plane into the ground over by that coal mine...can you keep in on the down-low please."
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Yeah, everyone was in the field waiting for it to go down - NOT. Have you ever looked at the detritus of a large airliner crashing? What was on the surface at Shanksville is NOTHING like a normal airliner crash. The official version first put out was that the ground was soft, and so it swallowed everything up, down deep. Again I say, do me a favour...! The US officials were extracting the urine putting that out!
 
roydo said:
I know I am veering off topic a tad. And I agree with your "keep an open mind" mantra.

But during the whole Brexit fiasco, the last thing you had was an "Open mind".
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On the contrary roydo, and not wishing to drag the discussion elsewhere, the reason I voted the way I did, was because I had an open mind about both sides, and I did not like what I saw as a future with the EU.

Keep an open mind on everything.

Believe me, people do not know the half of what goes on, Government-wise...
 
nsno-chris said:
Any conspiracy theory involving Elon Musk is definitely true.

Weird cult faced freak
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Old Blue 2 said:
On the contrary roydo, and not wishing to drag the discussion elsewhere, the reason I voted the way I did, was because I had an open mind about both sides, and I did not like what I saw as a future with the EU.

Keep an open mind on everything.

Believe me, people do not know the half of what goes on, Government-wise...
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Nah. Your mind was made up before any thing happened. You totally dismissed any arguments about remaining as project fear, and mocked folk who disagreed with you. Not Open Minded.

But agree that most havnt a clue about Government and stuff.
 
Old Blue 2 said:
1. You see this where people jump to conclusions. All I have ever done is to present things, and say, draw your own conclusions.

2. I haven't said it wasn't a plane. Take a look at vids and draw your own conclusions. In the link I provided, the person said there were no aircraft into Towers 1 & 2 - I don't subscribe to that. BUT, there were certain things reported about the actual incident with Tower 2 that merit consideration.

3. If the wherewithal is there to do so, anything can be installed anywhere. As I have said before in the last few pages, don't have a closed mind, keep an open mind about things.

4. Eye witnesses see what they think they see. Oftentimes seeing things in an instant. All over silver? Tyres silver? Handlebars silver? Seat silver? See where this is going? Yes, eyewitnesses often get some details wrong, I agree. The worst thing for any investigator is when everybody says exactly the same thing. Then the matter of collusion raises its head...
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Do you think the earth is flat?
 
Old Blue 2 said:
A gap in frames (when ran at 0.25 speed in Youtube) between the object in the extreme right of the clip and the actual explosion. That's been 'doctored', but hey, all the naysayers will say its perfect...
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Nope it wasn't. Those cameras had gaps due delays in the feed. It was quite common on old cctv cameras. They were either timed, had crude motion sensing or had delays or gaps as you call them. So the footage cuts then starts up again.

Many experts have explained that.
 
Old Blue 2 said:
1. You see this where people jump to conclusions. All I have ever done is to present things, and say, draw your own conclusions.

2. I haven't said it wasn't a plane. Take a look at vids and draw your own conclusions. In the link I provided, the person said there were no aircraft into Towers 1 & 2 - I don't subscribe to that. BUT, there were certain things reported about the actual incident with Tower 2 that merit consideration.

3. If the wherewithal is there to do so, anything can be installed anywhere. As I have said before in the last few pages, don't have a closed mind, keep an open mind about things.

4. Eye witnesses see what they think they see. Oftentimes seeing things in an instant. All over silver? Tyres silver? Handlebars silver? Seat silver? See where this is going? Yes, eyewitnesses often get some details wrong, I agree. The worst thing for any investigator is when everybody says exactly the same thing. Then the matter of collusion raises its head...
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The bit I don't get is, why exercise all this covert big brain energy to orchestrate the whole thing, only to neglect to attribute it indisputably to the person/country Bush actually wanted to go after?
 

Sy- said:
The bit I don't get is, why exercise all this covert big brain energy to orchestrate the whole thing, only to neglect to attribute it indisputably to the person/country Bush actually wanted to go after?
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Neither do I.

Like reports (whether true or not I don't know) of the registration codes of two of the airliners still being used years later.

There's a whole lot of unanswered things, and all I (we) can do is sit on the fence and try to make sense of it all.

All I do is simply put things out for consideration, but still the clowns come after me (as if I'm bothered).
 

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