Oh ffs enough wum. If you honestly think that you are definitely a wum. Fat people destroying the world too eh?
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Conspiracy theories
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Everyone in Shanksville PA was in on it: the locals who reported the crash, the first responders in the form of local, county, and state police, the EMTs, the bystanders, then later the local TSA agents...in total about 1000 people were in on the coverup. It was very easy to coordinate in 2001 when few people had cell phones. You just showed up to this secret meeting and the government officials said, "Hey, look, we're gonna fake-crash a plane into the ground over by that coal mine...can you keep in on the down-low please."
Tea_drinker
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I understand that you are a patriotic american. But put that aside and do you honestly believe that there would be no better cctv than that especially when they knew the plane was in the area. And what about building 7?
I dont buy into a lot of conspiracies but 7/11 is deffo a hoax.
I am in that sector pal. I have security clearance for several governments so no there wasn't anything they had at that time that was better.
Also I am Irish by birth so I am defo not a patriotic American. Do I love living here as a dual citizen sure but patriotic American is not me.
So is 4/20
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But the one 2 days later was real.
Tea_drinker
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Pure smoke n mirrors that one.
Tea_drinker
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That's not exactly my view. Fat people are responsible for the strain on the nhs to a large degree but that's fact not a conspiracy. I'm not a wum, I just have opinions as do you.
Well maybe thats true. If so when someone explains to you that they know something don't respond with comments like the buster Keaton one or calling them patriotic americans as if that clouds their view.
It doesn't help debate you know.
I take it back if you weren't trying to wum then.
Tea_drinker
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I'm open to what happened on 9.11. I just find it unusual that even in 2001 the only footage we have is the New York thing and the building 7 story doesnt tally from what I know about it. I have a lot of american mates who are to a man patriotic and are also liberal world travellers but in the UK- and especially around these parts- we dont often trust the word of authority so I'm prone to question.
I do agree building 7 is an odd one. But I don't think it's enough proof off an overall hoax.
Like someone said here earlier. The sad part is there have been so much back and forth with so called experts we will never get the truth about certain aspects. That being said I know what I saw with my own eyes and what people who witnessed it have told me over the years.
That and some compelling evidence from trusted sources on certain aspects that it was not a conspiracy.
The only thing I will say that the majority of truthers and conspiracies always seme to be lead by people with dubious views and or histories. Credibility is always key for me.
It's much like the guys who claim they were abducted by UFO. They always seem to be drunk or mentally ill. Or just plain weird so its hard to believe them haha!
Or.those who claim to be Jesus. What if Jesus was real and he came back. Would we believe him. Simply because there have been so many crackpots claiming the same thing haha!
While we’re at it, the amount of people who have bought into that QAnon loon fest “Fall of the Cabal” is beginning to seriously irritate me.
“Just look into it, that’s all I’m saying” they crow, unaware of the irony that if they’d spent a couple of minutes fact checking this nonsense themselves, they wouldn’t be recommending it to anyone...
“Just look into it, that’s all I’m saying” they crow, unaware of the irony that if they’d spent a couple of minutes fact checking this nonsense themselves, they wouldn’t be recommending it to anyone...
Tea_drinker
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If the governments and 'authorities' were honest and believably honest there would be no room for conspiracies. It's the murkiness that they are involved in that facilitates the conspiracy industry.
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1. You see this where people jump to conclusions. All I have ever done is to present things, and say, draw your own conclusions.
2. I haven't said it wasn't a plane. Take a look at vids and draw your own conclusions. In the link I provided, the person said there were no aircraft into Towers 1 & 2 - I don't subscribe to that. BUT, there were certain things reported about the actual incident with Tower 2 that merit consideration.
3. If the wherewithal is there to do so, anything can be installed anywhere. As I have said before in the last few pages, don't have a closed mind, keep an open mind about things.
4. Eye witnesses see what they think they see. Oftentimes seeing things in an instant. All over silver? Tyres silver? Handlebars silver? Seat silver? See where this is going? Yes, eyewitnesses often get some details wrong, I agree. The worst thing for any investigator is when everybody says exactly the same thing. Then the matter of collusion raises its head...
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A gap in frames (when ran at 0.25 speed in Youtube) between the object in the extreme right of the clip and the actual explosion. That's been 'doctored', but hey, all the naysayers will say its perfect...
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