Conspiracy theories

[Oddball]

Are we all dead?

the scientists who made the vaccine predicted that if you take it you`ve got a better chance of popping off.........work that one out

 

[dholliday]

Am I right in thinking that you're questioning why more deaths are occuring among vaccinated and boostered individuals than non vaccinated people, when around 92-95% of the population are vaccinated?

not just more, but 94% of total Covid-deaths. 85% of deaths are boostered.

6% of Covid-deaths are unvaccinated.

3 million adults remain unvaxxed in the UK. This would be around 6% of the total vaccine-eligible population. So on par.

Ergo...the vaccines make no appreciable statistical difference to death rates.


How is this not a HUGE talking point?

 

[Oddball]

not just more, but 94% of total Covid-deaths.


But look at the push-back even this factual information is getting.

Astonishing, really.

whats that syndrome called were the abused ends up siding with their abuser?

 

[dholliday]

whats that syndrome called were the abused ends up siding with their abuser?

Stockholm-Syndrome. Maybe.

First, we have to accept two things:

1) the vaccines appear to have been effective - to a point - during 2021's Delta/Alpha waves. Especially for the at-risk groups.
2) the majority of jabbed haven't had any notable or serious side-effects.


But there is now a mass-delusion at play as to its current effectiveness, and of its potential risk factor for otherwise healthy folk. Any information which may now paint the jab in a negative light is instinctively, even emotionally, dismissed.

This cult-like faith in Big Pharma isn't normal. We weren't like this in 2019. There's been some programming going on.


This theory may shed some light:

 

[Oddball]

John Stewart is a comedian. He is making jokes around a belief that is based on nothing more than a lab is in a city. The lab is called the Wuhan institute for virology, not the Wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab. There are labs like these all over the world that look into this stuff. Liverpool has one of the leading schools for tropical disease.

I'm not saying it definitely didn't originate from there, but I trust the opinions of the scientists who have looked into it.

Do you think all scientists around the world are in on a conspiracy? If so, first of all, why?

second, at what level does the conspiracy start? I.e. are uni students who are studying medicine or virology in on it?

as of february this year Britain spent £8.3bn on covid stuff. could you see anyone having their head turned by that much dough?

 

[Jimishorts]

There's a 94% death rate for vaccinated people

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6% of Covid-deaths are unvaccinated

 

[Jebus_lives]

not just more, but 94% of total Covid-deaths. 85% of deaths are boostered.

6% of Covid-deaths are unvaccinated.

3 million adults remain unvaxxed in the UK. This would be around 6% of the total vaccine-eligible population. So on par.

Ergo...the vaccines make no appreciable statistical difference to death rates.


How is this not a HUGE talking point?

I expect it's not a HUGE talking point because:

A) the vaccine doesn't completely protect you from Covid.
B) the effectiveness of vaccine diminishes over time
C) those dying from Covid*, who are vaccinated, are at much greater risk to dying from Covid regardless of vaccine status.
D) the number of vaccinated people is very high, so you're much more likely to die from Covid as a vaccinated person than you are as a non vaccinated person.

*From/with - we can pick and choose when it suits it seems.

 

[dholliday]

interesting questions were asked by journalists & politicians after the handling of the Swine Flu crisis of 2009:




Similar questions have been dismissed in relation to the Covid-pandemic.


Fair?

 

[dholliday]

A) the vaccine doesn't completely protect you from Covid.

we can agree on that lol

B) the effectiveness of vaccine diminishes over time

that wasn't advertised at the time of roll-out. Why the mass acceptance of such a profound weakness?

C) those dying from Covid*, who are vaccinated, are at much greater risk to dying from Covid regardless of vaccine status.

This makes no sense. Source? Why are they at much greater risk? Because they're vaccinated? But then you say "regardless of vax status".

Mind boggling here.

D) the number of vaccinated people is very high, so you're much more likely to die from Covid as a vaccinated person than you are as a non vaccinated person.

wow...you said it, jebes.

They didn't advertise this either at the time of mass rollouts, but if you're willing to accept that now, then so be it.

 

[dholliday]

looks like Toby Young is a blue and reads this thread lol

 

[KaiserEFC]

I’m pretty sure the entire royal family are lizard people if I’m honest

 

[dholliday]

the toadmeister has some interesting info lately:








Discuss.

 

[KaiserEFC]

the toadmeister has some interesting info lately:








Discuss.

The heatwave will have contributed massively

 

[dholliday]

The heatwave will have contributed massively

the heatwave was two days.

 

[KaiserEFC]

the heatwave was two days.

The hottest two were but the hot weather lasted a lot longer than that.

Also people do just, you know, die.