Covid Passports and Testing etc

[Brett Angell Delight]

The only people really at risk, once the vaccinations are all done, are those who elected not to be vaccinated. As long as they’ve been properly made aware of those risks, then using COVID passports to determine whether they can go to shops, pubs, etc is absolutely a pointless boot on the neck from the government.

It should come as no surprise though, when this government is in the process of removing the right to peacefully protest injustice. Dirty, horrible lot.

 

[Telford-Feb-85]

I cant get my head around how it would work anyway. It might just work for a once in a while event say a concert or similar but not for a daily, weekly, twice a month event like going to the pub or the game. The amount of data that would need to be entered and updated would put any system under huge pressure and mistakes will always be made.

If we cant get track and trace sorted not sure a bigger national system like Covid passport will fare any better.

Projects of this size take years and often fail at the cost of billions with nothing to show for it.

I've heard the travel passport argument but that is supplying data once and it lasts for 10 years so not sure Covid passport is comparable if it needs regularly updating with jabs and test results.

The number of variables is too great not to cause issues. e.g. your age, number of jabs, date of last jab, have you had the latest variant jab, number of tests, date of last test.

The time it takes to update any system with this data could be days which is then too late for you to get into your event or even go to the pub.

How do you correct any data that is wrong. e.g. system says you haven't had both jabs so that's a fail and you don't get let in but you know that you have had both jabs?

And we all know when it comes to sorting out any medical issues or questions you've got no chance of getting an appointment for ages at your doctors so who would administer this whole system/process.

Nightmare!

Spot on. It won't ever happen, its a frightener to get people to jab up. If I was 70 i'd have it but at 46 I'm more likely to get hit by an asteroid so I can't see the point of it at the moment. Still can't get my head around folk worrying about people who aren't having it, who cares?

 

[Joey66]

Spot on. It won't ever happen, its a frightener to get people to jab up. If I was 70 i'd have it but at 46 I'm more likely to get hit by an asteroid so I can't see the point of it at the moment. Still can't get my head around folk worrying about people who aren't having it, who cares?

The people who catch it ....and maybe die ......

 

[JammyP]

Are you 18? Have you got any ID? Then you can't see the 18 film. Not discrimination.
Covid pass seems to me common sense in the same way.
I would rather now everyone around was safe. Happy to sign up for a Covid card.

We could have special enclosures and pubs for people who don't want a pass. Should sort it out pretty quick.

 

[PITA]

When you're not allowed to enter the shops or withdraw money for attending a protest or commenting something dissenting, then let me know.
Also, you can't currently bar entry to a shop or pub 'for any reason', it has to be justified legally ie public disturbance or abuse.

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[Connor]

 

[4737carlin]

Spot on. It won't ever happen, its a frightener to get people to jab up. If I was 70 i'd have it but at 46 I'm more likely to get hit by an asteroid so I can't see the point of it at the moment. Still can't get my head around folk worrying about people who aren't having it, who cares?

The families of the people who have died because of people like you, they might care

 

[billy bluestar]

The people who catch it ....and maybe die ......

Maybe, if you’re over 80...

 

[Goat]

Maybe, if you’re over 80...

Yeah, screw those people!

 

[billy bluestar]

Yeah, screw those people!

No, i think we’re doing a good enough job of screwing the young people, to save people who have had their lives.

 

[Goat]

No, i think we’re doing a good enough job of screwing the young people, to save people who have had their lives.

I see, so at what age should we terminate people?

At what age do we deem them a life lived?

 

[msb]

I have a very cheery outlook on life actually - I'm an optimist and look for good in everyone I meet, and in every situation I face.

I live a law abiding, compliant life myself, but I wouldn't trust this lying shower of cheats, criminals and self-serving hypocrites as far as I could kick them.

I also see evil intent in every single thing that Johnson and this government touch, so why wouldn't I doubt their intentions on vaccines, and vaccine passports? They couldn't lie straight in bed, so why should I believe them on this?

If you can't see anything wrong in how they have done and are doing things, then I can't help you, and I'm glad I don't have your outlook on life.

Of course they are a monumental balls up, that’s what government is. I don’t trust them one iota, but the horse has bolted. They and every other government for years know everything there is to know about you and me.

the fact is we have to get on with life somehow, if it’s a health passport, so what?

I can see everything they have done wrong, I am also bloody glad I did not have to make those calls. This shower have a lot to answer for on corruption and lining their mates’ pockets, but I would still not have wanted to make the decisions they have faced. Everything is easy with hindsight.

they still are a corrupt bunch of imbeciles, what difference does it make. Ever was it thus.

 

[billy bluestar]

I see, so at what age should we terminate people?

At what age do we deem them a life lived?

I see it more a question of sacrificing a whole youth, to save people who were generally dying people. Some exceptions obviouly, it does not get away from the fact that the avearge age of covid RELATED deaths, is higher than the actual national average.

 

[Joey66]

Maybe, if you’re over 80...

No my younger cousin found dead in bed he had it waiting to go into hospital his wife who had it to - woke up to find a great Evertonian dead in her bed ....

 

[Goat]

I see it more a question of sacrificing a whole youth, to save people who were generally dying people. Some exceptions obviouly, it does not get away from the fact that the avearge age of covid RELATED deaths, is higher than the actual national average.

Is that the youth that "has their whole life ahead of them"?

Its dead easy to just dismiss a whole demographic.

Its been rough on the youth, you know with them not being able to wander around parks with their Merrydown.

But its been rough on everybody of all ages.

But the people who die, they don't get a chance to recover, unlike everybody else.