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Crystal Palace v Everton. 9th November @ 15.00.

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We do. There's absolutely no question at all of it. We have them and we also have numbers for the first time ever. Nearly ALL of them are playing like c*nts.

Manager's fault. We'll learn a lot about Roberto in the derby this year. He has an international break to get into them and sort them out.

Terrible today but 20 from 11 is very good for any managers first games at a new club.
 
There's pressure on the derby because it's a derby, nothing to do with drawing today or our league position. We've started the season well points wise, even if performances have been lacking imo.

We lose it and we're a long way behind a much improved RS with hard fixtures coming up. We can't really lose it.
 
McCarthy and Barry... Two sitters with little creativity, still not convinced.
Lukaku looking isolated like Jelavic has been for two seasons... Look out.

We can't seem to bury these teams under Martinez or Moyes. Palace, Cardiff, West Brom,Norwich all teams we should be taking full points from.


They're not the problem, the clueless play around the opposition box is. That's down to the 'creative players' like Mirallas, Osman, Barkley, Pienaar. Just not cute enough I'm afraid. Leaden footed and slow of wit.
 
We (me included!) are all wailing in angst...but actually, we should have lost...which makes it WORSE...so forgot I wrote this totally irrelevant post
 
Non blue-tinted specs ratings. Neg rep away bullies.

Howard - 8 - Made one great save and aside from untroubled.
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Coleman - 6 - Boring game. Defensively OK, but shocking decisions in the final third and terrible crossed.
Jagielka - 5 - Some typical **** passing, tried to gift Palace a goal and general sloppy play as has been the case for weeks.
Distin - 7 - Decent game by Disty, as usual.
Baines - 6 - Awful set pieces all game, crossing woeful, looked a shadow of the player we know and love. Head turned?
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Mirallas - 5 - Has been awful this season and was poor again today, rightfully subbed off.
Osman - 6 - Didn't do anything pathetically wrong as he usually does, but just isn't very good.
McCarthy - 6 - Average game, was very annoying towards the end tiki-taka in the 94th minute when in perfect position to cross.
Barry - 7 - Solid game and probably our best player.
Pienaar - 6 - Off form, the Baines partnership isn't working and to me doesn't look fit.
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Lukaku - 6 - Barely had a kick all game. If we aren't gonna bother crossing to him or put it into his feet he might as well stay at home.

SUBS:
Barkley - 7 - World's apart from Osman in terms of talent and fitness, but didn't really have a big impact on the game.
Deulofeu - 5 - Thought he was poor tbh.

agree. But thought del boy looked ok once he settled down after 5 minutes
 

Osman, Mccarthy and Barry are the three that play centrally and not one of them is a forward bursting player with a bit of pace. Pienaar is Pienaar and Mirallas needs to do a lot more. One of Deulofeu and Barkley need to start or drop Osman and play Naismith or Jelavic to support Lukaku like Barkley did.

A 5 man midfield out of which no one links up with Lukaku won't help.
 
A plan B would be good, perhaps just not having all our players playing around defensive and middle third and actually offer some options going forward wouldn't be a bad start.
 
Terrible today but 20 from 11 is very good for any managers first games at a new club.

Bad day today, yes, but to put a positive spin on it, we're 5th in November. I'd have taken that as a 'so far' back in July.

Not good enough today, but overall, we doing ok considering things.
 

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