Crystal Palace v Liverpool May 5 20.00hrs. Match Preview

[bluemangroup]

Fair point.

You still need more mockery to cancel out such a horrendously reasonable post.

 

[LeeRab]

Regardless of whether City slip up or not, he's been found out in the run in. He completely lost the plot in the last two matches. In fact you can throw in the Norwich game too. Pressure needs a cool head and he thinks just saying "we go with Plan A+" is a response to in-game changes. He's been getting plaudits all season and I've argued on here he doesn't deserve them. He's rode on the coat-tails of a system that suits Gerrard's game (and is probably imposed by Gerrard) and the fact that until recently the rest of the PL refused to learn the lesson of their largely agricultural play, preferring instead to look on and fear the finishing of Suarez/Sturridge.

If they finish second it'll be the beginning of the end for Rodgers.

Couldn't agree more

From one of his first press conferences and the system and style he was pretty much adamant they were going to adopt, to what it is now, is complete night and day.

You need a plan B and even a plan C to succeed and wonderfully, this fella and his team don't have it. The keegan approach of ' we'll just score more than you ' will only get you so far along that road before a wheel falls off. I believe their defensive record is the worst for 15 years. Who was in charge back then, was it Souness ? lol......... They have very clearly relied on the finishing of those two up top.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Let's be right here lads, if we as Evertonians were scripting this fantastic collapse, when they had 1 hand on the trophy, even we would have said it was a tad too far fetched.

5 points clear with 3 games left, Gerrards slip and then chucking away a 3-0 lead in 9 minutes, it's been a genuine thing of beauty to witness.

The fact that they've managed to get so close, and predictably - as kopites - celebrated hard even when they'd not clinched it. From the big flags and flares at their home games, through to the Sky scripted huddle and those now infamous T shirts, to see them spew it in such spectacular fashion has been the biggest dose of karma I can ever remember them being dealt.

 

[PITA]

7th to 2nd is pretty good.

Rodgers has done exactly what Martinez has done. They've both got their clubs something neither has seen for a few years and what most people would consider a successs, cl for them, europa for us. But in both cases they were challenging for an even greater prize which they had no right to be going for, the league for them, the cl for us and then threw it away at the end.

So the prize they have won looks worse in comparison but it's still quite good, in the end.

Yes Rodgers had had more money and more time than Martinez but the bottom line is 8th to 2nd in two seasons. You can't really knock that.

OR he's won nothing in two seasons. This, by the way, is one trophy less than Martinez.

 

[Allezfan]

OR he's won nothing in two seasons. This, by the way, is one trophy less than Martinez.

I'd rather have Martinez, too.

But they had finished outside the top 5 for 4 seasons in a row and now they'll finish 2nd.

That's not the worst managing I've ever seen.

Of course they're richer than solomon so had no right to be out of the top 5 in the first place.

Anyway, less of that and more of this.

 

[toffee matt]

Correct.

A no mark who will hopefully remain a no mark at the end of the season.

He needs to bring in silverware next season or the natives will turn.

Liverpool fans will be expecting regular title challenges after this season.

 

[LeeRab]

.....still got 3 goals last night, which should be sufficient to win any game.

But when you have a defence that is as fragile as theirs and a muppet at the helm stalling and dithering with tactics when his team have needed a change, its only a matter of time before you get found out and luck throws you a spinner.

B-Rod (im personally loving this one) isn't all that at all and whilst i'm in tears at this, their deluded fanbase should be utterly embarrassed with themselves for comparing him with Shankly. Good grief !

 

[ste d' indica]

Seems like Ivanovich is with us here:




[Disclaimer] Don't let correct translation get in the way of ripping on kopites

 

[LeeRab]

Wasn't that long ago Brent was being talked about for manager of the year.

How apt it was that Pulis, another name floating around for this title, has potentially destroyed any chance of that.

Go ed B-Rod !!!

 

[davek]

Couldn't agree more

From one of his first press conferences and the system and style he was pretty much adamant they were going to adopt, to what it is now, is complete night and day.

You need a plan B and even a plan C to succeed and wonderfully, this fella and his team don't have it. The keegan approach of ' we'll just score more than you ' will only get you so far along that road before a wheel falls off. I believe their defensive record is the worst for 15 years. Who was in charge back then, was it Souness ? lol......... They have very clearly relied on the finishing of those two up top.

From Tika Taka 'principles' to get it punted 'principles'. He's a fraud. I've always maintained it.

The way he swallowed all the BS of his own making about 'we only attack' - picked up on and amplified back to him by a pliant and know-nothing footy commentariat - meant he felt the need to be a prisoner to it even when disaster was in progress and screaming he should stop and consolidate.

This feller got to play with expensive toys for a while. If Liverpool fail to land the title this season after all that's gone on they'll be taken away from him in short order when he craters next season.

 

[bluestevon]

.....still got 3 goals last night, which should be sufficient to win any game.

one thing i have noticed in the last 2 games though is sterling has been nullified, people are starting to click on how to play him now

 

[bluestevon]

Remember that this is the same man who feigns mortal injury at least once every game - but never actually gets injured. He never worries about covering his face then.

30 seconds before the final whistle he had a sarcastic smile on his face as if to say 'I was ill today but still ran myself to the ground for THIS USELESS LOT'.

Who knows what was really going on under the shirt.

He will be off this summer mate, he's been playing this season like a man desperate to get that BIG move

 

[Eggs]

one thing i have noticed in the last 2 games though is sterling has been nullified, people are starting to click on how to play him now

...I think this might be the case with the reds approach in general next season. They play back to front very quickly. I noted a while ago on here that Gerrard is like a quarterback, launching passes from deep directly to dangerous forwards who play on the shoulder of defenders and can create from one-on-one situations. I suggested it could be worth putting somebody on Gerrard to nullify the threat and Pullis clearly tried this yesterday with Chammack but came unstuck because they had no out ball themselves. I suspect the reds will need a plan B next season.

 

[bluestevon]

...I think this might be the case with the reds approach in general next season. They play back to front very quickly. I noted a while ago on here that Gerrard is like a quarterback, launching passes from deep directly to dangerous forwards who play on the shoulder of defenders and can create from one-on-one situations. I suggested it could be worth putting somebody on Gerrard to nullify the threat and Pullis clearly tried this yesterday with Chammack but came unstuck because they had no out ball themselves. I suspect the reds will need a plan B next season.

Biggest problem i see mate is defensively their screwed as they try sit Gerrard back their and frankly he is useless as cover for the back four, noticable that when the pressure went on in their last two he went into stevie meee mode again trying to single handedly win the game against chelsea and leaving them horribly exposed at the back and just left in no mans land against palace

and as is painfully obvious they won't be able to replace him for a good few years so the situation is only gonna be exposed more and more

 

[Eggs]

Biggest problem i see mate is defensively their screwed as they try sit Gerrard back their and frankly he is useless as cover for the back four, noticable that when the pressure went on in their last two he went into stevie meee mode again trying to single handedly win the game against chelsea and leaving them horribly exposed at the back and just left in no mans land against palace

and as is painfully obvious they won't be able to replace him for a good few years so the situation is only gonna be exposed more and more

....absolutely. I'm sure much of their summer spend will be centred around their defence. It'll be a huge challenge for the manager who hasn't exactly demonstrated his guile in that area with Toure and Sako (I presume he bought Sako).