David Moyes - Tactically Inept

[evertorial]

They were ****e today

And so were Sunderland according to many...

Why were they ****e?

because of Moyes tactics, in form teams finding no space and losing confidence as the game goes on due to nothing working. Moyes brings on the attacking reinforcements against a more frustrated team and reaps the rewards. If we played 4-4-2 at West Brom in form then we would have lost or at best drawn. My opinion yes but I simply think that some people think our players are a hell of a lot better than they actually are.

 

[Dublintoff]

Total football today

Is that denis playing for argentina??????

 

[Desaparecido]

Omg evertorial are you moyes

 

[evertorial]

Omg evertorial are you moyes

Steve Round

 

[NubiBlue]

So, did you FM managers note that he made his first sub before 75 minutes? He even broke with the two defensive midfield model which he loves. Personally, I don't think he's tactically inept and I don't believe that his problems are about tactics. Its about pace (an unsolvable problem in the short term), movement (our players don't give their co workers enough passing options), and playing the defence much too deep, a problem that he's addressed at last.

 

[tadpole]

And so were Sunderland according to many...

Why were they ****e?

because of Moyes tactics, in form teams finding no space and losing confidence as the game goes on due to nothing working. Moyes brings on the attacking reinforcements against a more frustrated team and reaps the rewards. If we played 4-4-2 at West Brom in form then we would have lost or at best drawn. My opinion yes but I simply think that some people think our players are a hell of a lot better than they actually are.

I think that's spot on. We're good at making the opposing team look poor - which is not that easy to do, and which is something that Everton, and Moyes, don't get a lot of credit for.

Moyes has been getting a lot of flac recently, so how about giving him some praise. Four games unbeaten, just a couple of goals conceded. We travel to West Brom without Drenthe, Coleman and Fellaini - three vital players for us. It's a 12.30 kick-off on New Year's Day - a coach's nightmare, how to get your team playing at their best at a time like that. But they dug in, they neutralised West Brom, and then Moyes gambled and brought on all his subs early in the second half, and they nicked a precious three points.

 

[davek]

So, did you FM managers note that he made his first sub before 75 minutes? He even broke with the two defensive midfield model which he loves. Personally, I don't think he's tactically inept and I don't believe that his problems are about tactics. Its about pace (an unsolvable problem in the short term), movement (our players don't give their co workers enough passing options), and playing the defence much too deep, a problem that he's addressed at last.

That sounds a bit FM Managerish..

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Ah please death, it was a half chance and no more. Dont clutch at straws.

I agree with what happy nick says, tactically boring is a better description of moyes. He had a game plan today, bore us all to death than bring on the gruesome twosome of denis and vic. It worked. Even if you dont like moyes, you could bite your tongue, and say nothing, nobody is expecting the moyes outers to lavish any praise for decisions he got right.

The point is that for the first 65 mins when we played a negative defensive game they had 2 good chances to score, we had some half chances but nothing more.

But when he made the subs and we changed to a more attacking line up they didn't have any good chances and we looked more likely to score which we finally did.

We could easily of started with diffeent players than we did today and actually tried to win the game a lot earlier than we did without compromising our goal.

And please, don't ignore all the people giving him credit for the subs he made, if you read the match thread you'll see i did so when he made the subs before we scored.

 

[Del]

West Brom have been playing well beating Newcastle and Blackburn and getting a good draw against City last week,So away from home picking up all 3 points and restricting them to long hopeful shots is a good result imo

 

[davek]

West Brom have been playing well beating Newcastle and Blackburn and getting a good draw against City last week,So away from home picking up all 3 points and restricting them to long hopeful shots is a good result imo

Good result, shit performance. That's probably the crux of the debate.

You cant argue with 7 from 9 points over the Christmas period. The Moyes stuff is probably best left to another day.

 

[Del]

Good result, shit performance. That's probably the crux of the debate.

You cant argue with 7 from 9 points over the Christmas period. The Moyes stuff is probably best left to another day.

Ageed mate

I still think they had the 2 best chances of the game a header from close range and a one on one that was skyed

 

[chicoazul]

West Brom have been playing well beating Newcastle and Blackburn and getting a good draw against City last week,So away from home picking up all 3 points and restricting them to long hopeful shots is a good result imo

Defo, I couldn't believe how average they looked. Just pleased we took advantage of it. If we'd have made similar subs against Sunderland we might have got the three points there too. Let's not get ahead of ourselves but if we beat Bolton on Wednesday then it's been a very good Christmas for us.

We'll get beat natch.

 

[davek]

Half way through the season, and when you look back at it it hasn't been pretty but he has them organised as a tough nut to crack, and that's why we're mid-table comfortably.

I would just wonder how that changes when he has maybe a couple more attacking players to choose from in Donovan and maybe another addition through the door: for the better (because we get more adventurous), or for the worse (because we lose that defensive-minded discipline)?

 

[harry]

Half way through the season, and when you look back at it it hasn't been pretty but he has them organised as a tough nut to crack, and that's why we're mid-table comfortably.

I would just wonder how that changes when he has maybe a couple more attacking players to choose from in Donovan and maybe another addition through the door: for the better (because we get more adventurous), or for the worse (because we lose that defensive-minded discipline)?

From a fans point of view who goes to the match, it can't really get any worse. We really need to improve our football or the stadium will be empty next season.

 

[bullensview]

From a fans point of view who goes to the match, it can't really get any worse. We really need to improve our football or the stadium will be empty next season.

As said. We are organised but its been sh1te to watch. That's meant that most home games have been silent, or been negative from crowd. Would like to see Moyes go more adventurous but can't see it, so I will be happy with just getting some good results. All we can hope for this yr.