2024/25 David Moyes

[Rita_Poon]

Its fantastic news that he did say this, as its certain that he is wrong. I really don't know how he's still got a job as a pundit, the amount of rubbish he comes out with. I don't think even he knows what he's going to say before he speaks!

Someone has to say something stupid. It alleviates the pressure on the rest of em who have just about more than one brain cell between em.

Imagine this place without captain contrarian.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

I've watched that Ndaiye goal about 50 times since yesterday, loved it. Brighton will be a tough one, would be happy with a point there.

Same mate ha... Obviously we can't get ahead of ourselves but the players will certainly be going there with a lot more confidences.

 

[Rita_Poon]

One thing we saw from the Jurassic period was that a forward for Dyche may as well just stay at home and not bother jogging around the opposiitons half on their own.

And we let Rondon go for free. When he was made to measure. Prime Everton.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

One thing we saw from the Jurassic period was that a forward for Dyche may as well just stay at home and not bother jogging around the opposiitons half on their own.

I think you'll see him chip in with a few more before the end of the season.

 

[BigDuncTributeBand]

Got to give him credit, picking a centre back at right back is the kind of decision that if we play badly and result goes against us manager gets absolutely slated for. Just getting the players higher up the pitch. Trying the pass into midfield when it was on. Getting players around DCL.

 

[Saint Domingo]

We need players in this window.

O'Brien stepped in and did well enough, but we dont have anything like a PL player at the club in the position.

We need a goal scorer. One goal in 18 games for Calvert-Lewin and he's coming out with stuff post match like "I'm just glad I was able to play my part in the win"...as if it's job done for the remainder of the season.

In the recent past we could have got Spence and Wood for about £20m the pair.

Criminal recruitment at this club. Fans have more idea than the scouting system and DoF.

New players are a must, the manager needs options and there aren’t many. We can’t fall into the inconsistency trap of these players. Calvert Lewin is a prime example, if he played his best form most of the season he’d be playing for a top club but he turns it on about 2 or 3 games a season, we get suckered into thinking he can lead the line for us next season and then he just reverts to type.

Our only consistent players are Pickford Branthwaite Tarkowski in terms of knowing you’ll get a decent level of quality from them most games. I’d put Garner in there when he’s fit.

Mykolenko Mangala Gueye Ndiaye McNeil it’s a coin toss if they play well or not

The rest of them if they turn up it’s a surprise.

One of the hallmarks of Moyes’ first tenure was consistency of the players, I’m hoping we can get that back but now that Friedkin’s are in place and have picked their manager then there’s nowhere to hide for the players now. There’s no appetite amongst owners or fans for another managerial change, and there’s no safety net of PS&R for the players knowing we couldn’t afford anyone anyway, so the players will hopefully have to realise now they’ll be out unless they perform sharpish.

 

[neil999]

What the hell is this fancy 3 at the back wingers as wing back thing?! I thought we were getting solid boring reliable 451 moyes

TOO FANCY

 

[davek]

New players are a must, the manager needs options and there aren’t many. We can’t fall into the inconsistency trap of these players. Calvert Lewin is a prime example, if he played his best form most of the season he’d be playing for a top club but he turns it on about 2 or 3 games a season, we get suckered into thinking he can lead the line for us next season and then he just reverts to type.

Our only consistent players are Pickford Branthwaite Tarkowski in terms of knowing you’ll get a decent level of quality from them most games. I’d put Garner in there when he’s fit.

Mykolenko Mangala Gueye Ndiaye McNeil it’s a coin toss if they play well or not

The rest of them if they turn up it’s a surprise.

One of the hallmarks of Moyes’ first tenure was consistency of the players, I’m hoping we can get that back but now that Friedkin’s are in place and have picked their manager then there’s nowhere to hide for the players now. There’s no appetite amongst owners or fans for another managerial change, and there’s no safety net of PS&R for the players knowing we couldn’t afford anyone anyway, so the players will hopefully have to realise now they’ll be out unless they perform sharpish.

There should be a lot moved on this summer if we stay up...some have their contracts up, some should be sold on..

Patterson
Keane
Mykolenko
Coleman
Doucoure
DCL
Beto
Chermiti
Holgate
Maupay

Loans sent back...

Harrison
Broja

It's a massive rebuilding job here.

I hope Moyes - if he stays on - is busy lining players up. I think he relies on McKinlay to do his decision making on that, so the likes of Thelwell might even need to go.

 

[smileychap]

He was there for a year (back end of one season finished 12th, sacked Nov next).

They ended the season he left in 9th.

"Killed

Yeah, it was always someone else's fault. The Kopite of football management.

 

[Rita_Poon]

so the players will hopefully have to realise now they’ll be out unless they perform sharpish.

There's a chance they'd fallen out with the Dyche method. I maintain he knew it was coming and his comment about not doing as they were told was where the end began. Tbf to him, it seems he went to his bosses - the owners, told them the staff were no longer responding to him and that he was out of idea(s).

Grinding, defence at all costs, zero creativity, zero entertainment, zero goals football probably had got a bit stale, it had in the stands, it had on the field, and the closer we wavered towards the hot spots of relegation the more pressure it invited.

I have a lot more time for Dyche's honesty, his acceptance of responsibility, especially when compared to bobby 'phenomenal', and piggy 'context', those two weapons to this day still blame everyone else and talk up their failure as success. Dyche gets a hearty thank you for last season and the circumstances and difficulties we were dragged through. And a thanks for stepping aside now while there's still good chance to save this season. Others would have hung on and dragged us down.

 

[smileychap]

Sunderland were on the same slide as us pre-Dyche. Expensive short term fixes with multiple managers, then the cash runs out.

But I always thought Moyes came across as defeatist in his time there.

Sociedad were 13th when Moyes joined and finished in a similar spot. Without stats I don't recall impact, but on the moments I saw the table they'd become a meaner both ends of the pitch appeared to improve the session he left.

Utd were and remain a disjointed squad and huge club monetarily that no-one seems to get sufficient time to resolve, not that I care.

I wasn't overjoyed to see Moyes return, but if he stays at 1.5pts a game until May it's been a master stroke

 

[Papa Shango]

What the hell is this fancy 3 at the back wingers as wing back thing?! I thought we were getting solid boring reliable 451 moyes

TOO FANCY

We played 4 at the back for most of the game...

 

[Marius57]

In the recent past we could have got Spence and Wood for about £20m the pair.

When could we have got them both for £20m?

Considering Wood cost Forest £15m after having also paid a loan fee of £3m.

And spence cost a reported £20m when spurs bought him.

Thats nearly £40m.

 

[pfim]

We played 4 at the back for most of the game...

In defense we had 5. In attack it was four. Lindstrom was effectively the fifth man in the shape. O'Brien would move wide when we had possession. It gave us more structure in the back and relieved N'Diaye of some of the defensive work.

 

[Rita_Poon]

When could we have got them both for £20m?

Considering Wood cost Forest £15m after having also paid a loan fee of £3m.

And spence cost a reported £20m when spurs bought him.

Thats nearly £40m.

It's contrarianism, if the club had picked em up for a few mill as prospects the argument would shift to talent spotting youth prospects and getting them into the youth setup for free.

Never let the facts get in the way of twisting a story into a perverse knock at the club. It's funny because there's plenty of low hanging fruit to go after already without inventing even more.

Some people are only happy when it rains.