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derren brown and the lottery!

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heatmeiser said:
He doesn't pretend to be magic or owt, just psychology.

He's a real master.

He fecking terrifies me to be honest. I'd run a mile if I saw him.

Incidentally did anyone know he has more than a hint of lavender about him?

Lives with his fella apparently. Should be a good program, apparently he is trying to hypnotise people at home (no doubt it will involve some kind of subliminal programming to make you think you have been hypnotised).

He's a class act.
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I agree with that. I've not seen much of him, but what I have seen was really clever.

The guy is quite classy, and more so because he doesn't attempt to hide behind the paranormal or claim psychic ability. He admits everything is done by trickery.
 
Welton Toffee said:
Have you lot ever seen any of Derren Brown's work before?! :lol:

I highly doubt he used any sort of camera trickery...
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Have you mate?

Since you're just gonna take what you saw and what he said for face value, he might as well have just come out and said 'Tonight I will guess the lottery numbers correctly' and walk off.

You can't pre-guess a random draw with odds of like one in 14 million. It's an illusion, and the only way it makes sense for me is that they had to have done something between the lottery having been drawn, and the showing of the white balls. Whether it was done off camera, or whether the balls were tampered with, is the debate.

There's no system to guess lottery numbers. He hasn't been sat up all night for a year looking at the history of the lottery, seeing which numbers come up most often, and hoping. Christ.
 

Pretty sure if you let him lose on fanatics or dictators, he could have them running errands for old people, and picking flowers for the leaders of other nations. :D
 
It'll be a mathmatical guess (didnt he say he spent over a year preparing it?). He did say that he was wanting to get 5 out of the 6 I think, then got all of them didnt he?

It'll be a number games and he'd have probably have 20 od numbers he whittled it down to, and made some tight as a drum guess to get them right.

Or he's just pulling the wool.

I also think the reason why he didnt put a bet on was probably because he went to Camelot and asked for a load of info (make of machines used, list of the winning numbers over the year etc) which is bascially trying to make an eloborate mathmatical guess. So he probably signed something so he couldnt but a quid on the lottery.
 
Watched this closely, the balls were moving all the time which is why they had to have a shakey camera man, and when they finished there was a tiny white border above the balls, (note that the black ink isn't at the top) I reckon they were white with a blue label on, or even completely blue balls, the old blue screen trick. An assistant wrote the numbers down and in the studio they were just white balls with blue squares or blue balls (no independent witnesses were present), but to the tv audience they were the correct numbers, ta-dah, effin magic :coffee:

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4everblue said:
Watched this closely, the balls were moving all the time which is why they had to have a shakey camera man, and when they finished there was a tiny white border above the balls, (note that the black ink isn't at the top) I reckon they were white with a blue label on, or even completely blue balls, the old blue screen trick. An assistant wrote the numbers down and in the studio they were just white balls with blue squares or blue balls (no independent witnesses were present), but to the tv audience they were the correct numbers, ta-dah, effin magic :coffee:

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I dunno, that seems too simplistic for him. Just turning up and doing a bit of computer trickery goes against what he tends to do - mess about with or play clever tricks with the mind.

He's not really a magician where everything is slight of hand so doing illusions with blue-screens etc isnt his cup of tea.

It'll be something complicated, a one off educated guess built on equations etc that he couldnt do again because of the random factor of the lottery. Its like, he'll read over and see the number 11 hasnt dropped for 5months. A pattern suggests a number drops a certain amount of times over a given period etc etc so he'd take a guess and say that will drop today (last night) because of the set number of days,months etc its fallen on.

Could be completely wrong. But saying that I wouldnt put it past him to do some bluescreen just to say "you're all stupid because I tricked your eyes". But I'd feel cheated.
 
kenada_blue said:
I dunno, that seems too simplistic for him. Just turning up and doing a bit of computer trickery goes against what he tends to do - mess about with or play clever tricks with the mind.

He's not really a magician where everything is slight of hand so doing illusions with blue-screens etc isnt his cup of tea.

It'll be something complicated, a one off educated guess built on equations etc that he couldnt do again because of the random factor of the lottery. Its like, he'll read over and see the number 11 hasnt dropped for 5months. A pattern suggests a number drops a certain amount of times over a given period etc etc so he'd take a guess and say that will drop today (last night) because of the set number of days,months etc its fallen on.

Could be completely wrong. But saying that I wouldnt put it past him to do some bluescreen just to say "you're all stupid because I tricked your eyes". But I'd feel cheated.
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I'm sorry but if anyone actually thinks he genuinely predicted those numbers before they were drawn whether through pure guess work, years of study or some complicated mathmatical system they are living in a dream world.

It was a trick. He made it look like he predicted the lottery numbers. But he didn't.

Think logically about how he could possibly of made those numbers show up on those balls in between them being drawn and him revealing them. Some kind of camera/computer trickery is the most obvious answer.
 
deathbyropeandglass said:
I'm sorry but if anyone actually thinks he genuinely predicted those numbers before they were drawn whether through pure guess work, years of study or some complicated mathmatical system they are living in a dream world.

It was a trick. He made it look like he predicted the lottery numbers. But he didn't.

Think logically about how he could possibly of made those numbers show up on those balls in between them being drawn and him revealing them. Some kind of camera/computer trickery is the most obvious answer.
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But what a waste of time if that's true. A complete and pointless exercise.

If you've ever watched Derran Brown he never uses funny camera tricks and FX, its all mind tricks, hypnosis, maths, educated guesses etc and not split-screens, blue-screens, projections, or black-light cheating.

If it is something like that, I'm pretty sure the audience will drop considerably for his next "event" as everyone will say its just a optical effect and he would be seen as a fraud.

Thats my view on it anyway.
 

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