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Discussion & help on depression & mental health related issues

I have a start date for a new job. Now the anxiety is kicking in. I know I am a stronger person and this new role won't be a stressful and tense as the last one. But after not working since August last year...it is all beginning to come on top.
PTSD is shoite
Any new job is stressful and exhausting- all the new information to take in, the new people to meet and suss out, presenting your "best face" at all times (until they get to know you better at least)- so try not too be too hard on yourself, and expect that it will be tough- that's a normal process.

Perhaps try and put some things in place before you arrive? Is there a park or nice place nearby for example that you can pop to at lunchtime from your work, to have a break and gather yourself? Is there some exercise you could do do before work to release the anxiety?

And, on the positive side, you got yourself out of a stressful job situation, and you are better placed now to see the signs of stress creeping in again, and hopefully address them before it gets too much. Good luck.
 
Going to give that headspace app a go, I got one called guided meditation also. Willing to try anything, even though I struggle with the mindfullness stuff.

I really struggle with mindfulness too. I've been reading a lot about Mencius recently, which sounds very pretentious, but actually, when you read what he thought, it makes so much sense to me at least, in terms of how I view the world. In a nutshell, his "philosophy" is that the world is capricious and fragmented, and that what we need to learn is just how to deal with it to best live our lives day-to-day, by concentrating on the small ways in which we can influence change, break patterns of behaviour etc.

You might like this article that talks briefly about Chinese (mostly Confucius and Mencius) thought v Mindfulness! (and the book it mentions "The Path" is a good easy read)- https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...ng-to-find-yourself-start-faking-it-confucius
 
I really struggle with mindfulness too. I've been reading a lot about Mencius recently, which sounds very pretentious, but actually, when you read what he thought, it makes so much sense to me at least, in terms of how I view the world. In a nutshell, his "philosophy" is that the world is capricious and fragmented, and that what we need to learn is just how to deal with it to best live our lives day-to-day, by concentrating on the small ways in which we can influence change, break patterns of behaviour etc.

You might like this article that talks briefly about Chinese (mostly Confucius and Mencius) thought v Mindfulness! (and the book it mentions "The Path" is a good easy read)- https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...ng-to-find-yourself-start-faking-it-confucius

Thanks, I'll have a look at these later on.
 
How do you deal with the part you said about feeling guilty about simple things ? I ask as i used to feel exactly the same even if i had a valid reason for not going for a drink with mates etc.

Thanks for asking.

I don't deal with it very well to be honest. Usually find a daft way to punish myself, for example, I won't allow myself to do something I would enjoy like watch a programme I like or play a video game.

Did you ever make any progress with your feelings?
 
A good sleep is VERY important mate for a troubled mind mate, I've had to learn that the hard way. Without it our brains often suffer a complete break down at some point during your day and we can't even do the most basic of things like concentrate, I've had so many horrible days that I could have saved myself from had I just gone to bed earlier and woke up feeling more rested.

Make sure to get a good rest so you can be at your sharpest, that way you'll definitely find dealing with your anxiety not as difficult.

Thanks for the advice mate. Actually slept better than I have done for months last night.

How are you today?
 

Just wanted to say thanks for all the kind messages I've received. It really is great to have an outlet.

Didn't have the best of days today but I've decided to go back to see the doctor and get some more support. I have been prescribed medication for both anxiety and depression but I haven't been taking them. Hopefully I'll see an improvement if I go back on them.
 
Thanks for the advice mate. Actually slept better than I have done for months last night.

How are you today?

I'm okay, going out for a meal with the family in a bit which has me in a decent mood.

I still feeling anxious over the future though and feelings of hostility I have towards certain people who I feel slighted by are still burning strong. It's not a nice mindset to be stuck in.
 
I'm okay, going out for a meal with the family in a bit which has me in a decent mood.

I still feeling anxious over the future though and feelings of hostility I have towards certain people who I feel slighted by are still burning strong. It's not a nice mindset to be stuck in.

Must be difficult but like others of said, stick with it and something good will come along, probably when you least expect it. Easier said than done though of course.

I'm off out to run a few errands right now but PM me any time if you are stuck for someone to talk to. I'll do my best to get back to you as soon as I can.
 
Mate I put pressure on myself because I feel like I'm missing out on so much and I don't want things to carry on the way they are for any longer, I have to make active steps to change it. Telling me "take each day as it comes" does absolutely nothing for overall mood, I only feel worse and worse because no day is any better than the other otherwise.

I'm fed up of being a nearly man, a bloke who chewed up and spat out again because I'm too nice or naive or both whilst arseholes get ahead and enjoy the sort of things I want to enjoy too.

I'm not in a place where I am able to offer much advice at the moment but I feel for you. I have seen many arseholes get ahead and over time they seem to come unstuck eventually. It probably sounds like another cliché and maybe doesn't offer much comfort bit I believe it catches up with them eventually.
 
I'm not in a place where I am able to offer much advice at the moment but I feel for you. I have seen many arseholes get ahead and over time they seem to come unstuck eventually. It probably sounds like another cliché and maybe doesn't offer much comfort bit I believe it catches up with them eventually.

It does. And will.

Sleep well GOT. This thread is an inspiration.
 

Thanks for asking.

I don't deal with it very well to be honest. Usually find a daft way to punish myself, for example, I won't allow myself to do something I would enjoy like watch a programme I like or play a video game.

Did you ever make any progress with your feelings?
Yeah mate, once i got the anxiety under control to a point where it's bearable through meds and speaking to doctors etc. I don't now think I'm getting talked about behind my back if i can't make it to things and i also make more of an effort to go to social events instead of trying to think of any reason not to go.
 
An anxiety disorder is an illness the same as any other illness mate, so you don't need to feel guilty about anything at all.
I won't bore you with my anxiety problems, but mine came about due to an horrendous and prolonged situation in work over a decade ago. I still have them , but to an extent I've learnt to manage my situation.

My advice to you is that it won't go away until you accept it, once you do this you can start to try to do something about it.
If you try to fight it or bottle it up, it'll come roaring back at some point, normally in an unexpected situation.

From what I've read, the brain produces a chemical ( steroid ) called CORTISOL along with Adrenaline when placed under stressful situations - part of the fight or flight process, to give you that turbo boost to leg it or stay and fight. It's also produced as part of the waking process too, to gradually wake you up - I wager you're a bad sleeper too ?.

However if your placed in stressful situations for a long time ( this includes things like worrying about money, children, anything at all ) you're brain produces too much and for too long - like a tap being turned on that shouldn't be.

Your brain almost becomes locked in a loop of anxiety and you become worried about being worried - like you are.

It's horrendous and debilitating, as you're constantly on edge, can fly off the handle for no reason, tired all the time from it.

You suffer and everyone around you suffers.

I'd recommend going onto this NHS run forum mate :

mental health.org

It's an online community of sufferers with every type of mental ilness you can think of and there's a massive thead on there of posters with anxiety problems, just like you, who will support and give you brilliant advice about how to help yourself.

The way I manage mine mate, is through excercise ( aerobic excercise produces endorphins which make you feel good ) herbal stuff which helps me sleep and also by drinking in moderation - hangovers affect the balance of chemicals in your brain and make you feel horrendously low and anxious the following day.

@chicoazul also has a lot of very good advice that he'll help you with - simple mediation / retraining your brain.

Don't ever feel stupid mate, there's thousands of people across the globe that suffer the same as you and me. Most of us will never know about them, as you say, people become very good at hiding it.

Please keep posting, you really are amongst friends here x

Thanks for your support mate. It means a lot. I agree that accepting it is key. When I faced up to it a while back and got some help things improved. I've been telling myself for the last 12 months I'm fine now but I'm clearly not. I had quite a bad anxiety attack at work yesterday and it's really taken a lot out of me.

I've decided to go back to the doctor and get back on the medication I used to take. I will definitely look at that forum you recommend.

Thanks again.
 
Thanks for your support mate. It means a lot. I agree that accepting it is key. When I faced up to it a while back and got some help things improved. I've been telling myself for the last 12 months I'm fine now but I'm clearly not. I had quite a bad anxiety attack at work yesterday and it's really taken a lot out of me.

I've decided to go back to the doctor and get back on the medication I used to take. I will definitely look at that forum you recommend.

Thanks again.

Good stuff mate, it really is too exhausting to simply try and push through it with no help in my opinion.
 
Has anyone ever used herbal Kalms? If so did you find them useful?

I tried them myself a few months back but found they weren't for me. Didn't stay on them very long admittedly so maybe they needed more time and I have a close friend who swears by them, insists they were the main reason he got through a very dark period in his life. If you think they're worth a go then give it a try, they're easy to buy in any supermarket.
 

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