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Discussion & help on depression & mental health related issues

EvertonRhys said:
Sidetracking a bit here, but this goes out to others too. Was diagnosed with sleep apnoea this year, and the consultant was convinced it would help with the depression.

Been on a CPAP mask now for a fortnight, but feel just as shattered and no real change in mood (although wasn't exactly down for the past few months, just knackered.)

Anyone else been on this? Were the benefits immediate or gradual? Sorry, not mental health I know, but related to it slightly!
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Hey bud, just seen this. I've been using cpap for a few years now and it does make a big difference, my diagnosis was a bit of a shock because i associated sleep apnea with overweight old men which i am neither ! Been a terrible snorer all my life and was waking up with headaches every morning so the doctor referred me for an overnight sleep study which confirmed i have severe sleep apnea. Feels weird not having the mask on when I'm laying down after i despised it at first.

Maybe get the specialist to check the settings as you may need more air pressure ?

Keep us updated.
 

FC sexy xxx said:
I hope they at least consulted the crisis team in the local hospital?
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I upset the wife's sister by going against what she asked with regards to telling my own boys.
They wanted it kept quiet, but no way i wasn't asking my lads if they knew anything at the very least.

It's not a subject that I'm going to beat around the bush with.
I will find out more when I get home, but I'm wary of sticking my nose in too much.

Dead odd situation this, it was his birthday last week too.
 
Toast said:
I upset the wife's sister by going against what she asked with regards to telling my own boys.
They wanted it kept quiet, but no way i wasn't asking my lads if they knew anything at the very least.

It's not a subject that I'm going to beat around the bush with.
I will find out more when I get home, but I'm wary of sticking my nose in too much.

Dead odd situation this, it was his birthday last week too.
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hopefully he gets the help he needs mate
 
Toast said:
I upset the wife's sister by going against what she asked with regards to telling my own boys.
They wanted it kept quiet, but no way i wasn't asking my lads if they knew anything at the very least.

It's not a subject that I'm going to beat around the bush with.
I will find out more when I get home, but I'm wary of sticking my nose in too much.

Dead odd situation this, it was his birthday last week too.
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Don't think timing comes into it. Know of a fella near me at home. Had his 60th birthday party in a local pub. Was in flyin form. Daughter found him dead by suicide the following day.
 
cronullasharks said:
Hey bud, just seen this. I've been using cpap for a few years now and it does make a big difference, my diagnosis was a bit of a shock because i associated sleep apnea with overweight old men which i am neither ! Been a terrible snorer all my life and was waking up with headaches every morning so the doctor referred me for an overnight sleep study which confirmed i have severe sleep apnea. Feels weird not having the mask on when I'm laying down after i despised it at first.

Maybe get the specialist to check the settings as you may need more air pressure ?

Keep us updated.
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Cheers mate :) Funnily enough, today, for the first time I haven't felt so tired. Didn't have a long sleep or anything, so hoping it wasn't just a fluke. Last Friday I ended up oversleeping til 12pm (do a 9-5 job so luckily they're understanding enough.) I can just about put up with the tiredness, but the sleeping in just makes me look lazy- even if I stick on 10 alarms I can go right through them.

I've got a follow-up appointment booked for 1st June so will try make it through til then, but if not give them a call and see if there's something sooner! Hoping mine is weight-induced and I can lose it (1.5 stone down from 19.5 so far in 2 months) as yeah it feels so weird wearing it and it's something I don't want to rely on!
 
EvertonRhys said:
Cheers mate :) Funnily enough, today, for the first time I haven't felt so tired. Didn't have a long sleep or anything, so hoping it wasn't just a fluke. Last Friday I ended up oversleeping til 12pm (do a 9-5 job so luckily they're understanding enough.) I can just about put up with the tiredness, but the sleeping in just makes me look lazy- even if I stick on 10 alarms I can go right through them.

I've got a follow-up appointment booked for 1st June so will try make it through til then, but if not give them a call and see if there's something sooner! Hoping mine is weight-induced and I can lose it (1.5 stone down from 19.5 so far in 2 months) as yeah it feels so weird wearing it and it's something I don't want to rely on!
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Losing the weight will definitely help, the thing that is a massive pain is if you go on holidays or stay at family/friends houses you have to cart the thing around with you. Particularly annoying if you do a driving holiday and are staying in a different hotel/motel every night lol
 

COYBL25 said:
If he`s a risk to himself ( which he clearly is ) the very minimum should be a 28 day voluntary section ?????
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There is no such thing as a voluntary section.
Worth remembering that a 'section' is a last resort and if someone does need to be admitted every effort will be made to persuade them to go into hospital informally. Most admissions happen this way. If that persuasion doesn't work then, in most cases, the person will be assessed by 2 doctors and 'an approved mental health professional' (community psychiatric nurse or psychiatric social worker) and if they meet the criteria the AMHP will make the application. If any one of the three doesn't assess that the person needs compulsory admission then the section can't go ahead.
Unless there is a well known previous history and pattern to the illness they will admitted under S2 (hence the term 'section') of the Mental Health Act. That is an admission for assessment and lasts for up to 28 days - many are taken off the section before it expires and stay as an in patient informally.
28 days is considered adequate time to complete the assessment and if further detention is needed then it will be done under S3 which is for a period of up to 6 months. Most people come off this section long before the 6 months is up.
There are other ways to detain people eg where the person is guilty of a serious criminal offence (like Ian Brady in Ashworth) or where eg the circumstances are such that to wait for both doctors is impractical -like Aaron Lennon I presume - but these procedures are only for a maximum of 72 hours and within that time a full assessment for S2 will be done.
Well over a century of MH legislation has led to the emphasis being on preserving people's rights and, given the situation will often be difficult, is done as sympathetically and as inclusively as possible with the person and his family.
When assessing whether someone meets the criteria for compulsory admission you are looking for the symptoms of an illness (as this is for a S2 assessment you cannot diagnose it there and then hence the 28 day assessment), whether they are considered a risk to themselves or others and whether they have the capacity and insight to make a decision for themselves. The assessment is, when all is said and done, a judgement of the 3 professionals and that will be down to their knowledge and experience.
If in doubt at least contact their GP with the concerns (or the professional already involved if there is one) as to do nothing and it going dreadfully wrong is something the family will live with for ever.
Couldn't find how old the lad is looking back but assuming he's mid to late teens the parents need to ask for help. It's seldom as traumatic as people fear it will be, there's no shame to it and the professionals ought to be sensitive, practical and honest and support the whole family.
If you want more detail (this is a very brief superficial description of how the legislation works - there is a lot more) then feel free to ask.
 
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Shropshire Blue said:
There is no such thing as a voluntary section.
Worth remembering that a 'section' is a last resort and if someone does need to be admitted every effort will be made to persuade them to go into hospital informally. Most admissions happen this way. If that persuasion doesn't work then, in most cases, the person will be assessed by 2 doctors and 'an approved mental health professional' (community psychiatric nurse or psychiatric social worker) and if they meet the criteria the AMHP will make the application. If any one of the three doesn't assess that the person needs compulsory admission then the section can't go ahead.
Unless there is a well known previous history and pattern to the illness they will admitted under S2 (hence the term 'section') of the Mental Health Act. That is an admission for assessment and lasts for up to 28 days - many are taken off the section before it expires and stay as an in patient informally.
28 days is considered adequate time to complete the assessment and if further detention is needed then it will be done under S3 which is for a period of up to 6 months. Most people come off this section long before the 6 months is up.
There are other ways to detain people eg where the person is guilty of a serious criminal offence (like Ian Brady in Ashworth) or where eg the circumstances are such that to wait for both doctors is impractical -like Aaron Lennon I presume - but these procedures are only for a maximum of 72 hours and within that time a full assessment for S2 will be done.
Well over a century of MH legislation has led to the emphasis being on preserving people's rights and, given the situation will often be difficult, is done as sympathetically and as inclusively as possible with the person and his family.
When assessing whether someone meets the criteria for compulsory admission you are looking for the symptoms of an illness (as this is for a S2 assessment you cannot diagnose it there and then hence the 28 day assessment), whether they are considered a risk to themselves or others and whether they have the capacity and insight to make a decision for themselves. The assessment is, when all is said and done, a judgement of the 3 professionals and that will be down to their knowledge and experience.
If in doubt at least contact their GP with the concerns (or the professional already involved if there is one) as to do nothing and it going dreadfully wrong is something the family will live with for ever.
Couldn't find how old the lad is looking back but assuming he's mid to late teens the parents need to ask for help. It's seldom as traumatic as people fear it will be, there's no shame to it and the professionals ought to be sensitive, practical and honest and support the whole family.
If you want more detail (this is a very brief superficial description of how the legislation works - there is a lot more) then feel free to ask.
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Thanks for the info.
 
EFCPaul said:
Drinking again but feeling better. Not sure where i'm at to be honest. I don't think i'm depressed but i'm not fully happy either. I feel like things aren't going the way i'd like them too and i can't forsee a scenario where it goes any better.

Genuinely no idea how things are going to go in the future, maybe that's a good thing?
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Hi Paul, I was wondering how your getting on?
 
MrGrumpy said:
Hi Paul, I was wondering how your getting on?
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I'm feeling better mate, had a stable last few days and just tried to crack on with things really. Have started a diet and have managed to stick to it so far.

Thinking about certain things that I found out about at the weekend which is currently going on upsets me a bit still but i'm coming to terms with the fact that there's just nothing I can do about it, no matter how much headspace I afford it. My mate had some wise words when I sort of poured it all out for him, he kept ramming home the message of "you've got to stop comparing yourself to other people and telling yourself you're no good. You've got to be proud of yourself, all the things that make you unique are why I and other people like you."

It kind of hit home and was nice to hear. Not going to drink for a few weeks because I want to stick to my diet and get myself fit again.

I suppose everything will come together at the perfect time. Thanks very much for asking. :)
 

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