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Discussion & help on depression & mental health related issues

I've confused even myself this time - which is hard considering i'm always right [humour to hide behind the realisation of what I caused]
Am I upset because i've lost my cousin; probably. I can't be that upset as I created a situation whereby I can lose everything, I created what has just happened just to my own stupidity.
Can it be stupidity when you know what you are doing, I guess not. Instead i'm a level of irresponsible, and tw*t, and any other explicates you can think up.

I know why I tried to have him stay over longer - so I can be myself.
But I know there was opportunity [not much I should add] to take him home and I didn't - the 100% genuine statement is I did misread the train times, he was going home at that moment.
Actually scrap the not much part/100% genuine, thats me trying to defend myself when there is nothing to defend. The situation was created by me, nobody else.

The go to reasoning is always 'I wasn't thinking straight' but I must have been, else why do it?
Anyways, I think thats me typed out - i'm departing myself from my mobile/social media for a while just need to try and clear my head.
I need to try and regain what I had with my cousin - and thats gonna be difficult because i've been a selfish, ignorant, irresponsible, negligent t*t.
Sounds to me like you were enjoying the day and lost track of time. The parents will be understandably mad out of worry. Hopefully they'll calm down and be a bit more forgiving in the future.
Try not to overanalyze the situation, all it will do is magnify the situation and your regrets beyond what is realistic.
Hope you sort this out. But be prepared to give it time.
 
I've confused even myself this time - which is hard considering i'm always right [humour to hide behind the realisation of what I caused]
Am I upset because i've lost my cousin; probably. I can't be that upset as I created a situation whereby I can lose everything, I created what has just happened just to my own stupidity.
Can it be stupidity when you know what you are doing, I guess not. Instead i'm a level of irresponsible, and tw*t, and any other explicates you can think up.

I know why I tried to have him stay over longer - so I can be myself.
But I know there was opportunity [not much I should add] to take him home and I didn't - the 100% genuine statement is I did misread the train times, he was going home at that moment.
Actually scrap the not much part/100% genuine, thats me trying to defend myself when there is nothing to defend. The situation was created by me, nobody else.

The go to reasoning is always 'I wasn't thinking straight' but I must have been, else why do it?
Anyways, I think thats me typed out - i'm departing myself from my mobile/social media for a while just need to try and clear my head.
I need to try and regain what I had with my cousin - and thats gonna be difficult because i've been a selfish, ignorant, irresponsible, negligent t*t.

We`ve all done daft things when young mate, don`t beat yourself up too much.

As @chrismpw says, I`m sure once everything settles down they`ll see it for what it was and everything will go back to normal.
 
I've ruined everything for myself.
Its the water of a ducks back moment you could say - as i've realised fully how deep routed my issues lie.

I've broken down on the way home after dropping my cousin off back at his at 2:30am.
I manipulated a situation to allow him to stay for the night.
It just so happened my dads car broke down so I used the situation to prolong him staying.
The reality is my dads car did break down, but we went the match (late I should add) and he could easily have been dropped off, instead he stayed at lours with my mum.

His mum (also my cousin) messaged asking where he was - so stated car was still broken will be getting the train - this at say 10 o'clock now.
I did genuinely go to the train, and my stupidity misread the train times. I thought the last train was 10:33pm (22:33pm) it was 23:33am.
We missed the last train and that was not through want or lack or trying as we went the station. I took and sent the train times to his mum with the crappy message its been a bullshit day and we've missed the train.
His mum saw the train times and was worried massively as it didn't add up with the picture I send - long story short the police etc have been looking for us. In the end she managed to contact someone who contacted us. and the I spoke with his mum on the phone.

The words i'm looking for don't comprehend what happen as I've tried to engineer a situation to benefit myself, at the same time I know I am massive help to my cousin (thats not my assumption i've been told).
Safe to assume its all down the pan and I've lost someone who means the absolute world to me, and has unknowing to himself been a massive support for me. The idiot inside of me is looking at this and going wtf, why? It would be making excuses to say me not seeing him for x amount of weeks has pushed me back in my shell - i've always known that every week or so there is a chance of him staying over. Alas since he was under an indefinite punishment he hasn't been allowed to see of speak with anyone (at least relative to me).
I've not had an outlet to be myself, i've not had the opportunity to be myself on the weekend, i've just locked myself up.

Reality is there is more to my perception of myself, and like I said when I broke down in the car coming home - its all spilled out.
I was tottering on saying things but always hide away from talking about it - at the same time I don't think I would have been as expressive as I have been.

This looks like a post of 'I' this 'I' that - end of the day this was my doing and I feel like i'm making excuses for myself.
Its selfish. i've lied and its manipulative what i've done yesterday/today, and lets be I care more now because I feel like i've lost my cousin.
I've known him since September of my brothers wedding, and he has become a level of responsibility that i've embraced, a level of comfort in myself, and I don't think I ever cared to admit it to anyone beforehand. There are no written or spoken words that I can express to rebuild any trust with his parents - i've been a t*t.

My only hope is from a negative situation of my causing, something good comes of it - i've spoken out to my dad and lot more openly then what I did with my mum.
I'm hurting inside, but thats a selfish viewpoint after what i've caused I deserve all thats coming my way.
That said my hurt has bubbled over, my issues have been spoken about and are now out in the open with my mum and dad.
I just need to fix this problem, I still need to fix my own fully, but I need this situation sorted.
Irrelevant of everything, me sorting myself out (hopefully) does not alter the fact i've got something with my cousin that I don't want to loose.
I've done him no favours and i'm meant to be the responsible one - I feel like complete and utter sh*te with whats happened, but the get real siuation is I caused it, look at the pain I must have caused his mum and dad. I've a kn*bhead.

I was genuine in thinking i'd missed the last train - but behind that nope. What I caused and created was for my benefit, so I could enjoy myself again and not hide myself in my room. Its wrong, wrong, wrong what i've done - but i'm lost now with what I can do.

I can type and type, but it won't condense the 4 hour talk I had with my dad in the car - he had to stop multiple times.
I feel if I speak about it to his parents it'll be either dismissed as an excuse, or taken with contempt because look whats happened - its still raw now; I've only just got in the house.
Similarly, I think I am all cried out, so what i'm saying will come over emotionless.
I've finally burst the bubble i've been keeping myself in - so its had the outpouring of crying.
I can compose myself, I can type this, I can say thinks freely, so in my eyes i'll be judged [the general perception by majority of the family is i'm a smartarse, always has the last word, you can't win with me per say] as being callous.

The irony is my t*t brains, has helped me - its created a situation and now i'm in the deep end and need to deal with it because I don't wanna loose him, and to deal with it, I need to deal with myself. It does just seem like a book of excuses, a thread of chatting lies to cover my own back and thats whats eating me up now.
Reality is, had nothing materialised the way it did today I'd not have said anything and just plodded along till the next time I saw him. I am well aware of my actions today, and that makes it 10x's worse. I didn't miss read the time on purpose, I always struggle with 24hr clocks for some odd reason, that just exaggerated the issue.

I know what I done was wrong.
I need his mum and dad to know that i'm sorry [sorry doesn't cut it]
I can't keep making excuses for myself and this isn't a list of excuses.
I think I may have repeated a fair few points etc in this thread, but its all just getting typed without a structure.
I hate myself for what i've done and caused, I hate myself even more for loosing someone I cared a great deal about.
My selfishness, my pig-headed outlook on the situation, trying to benefit myself, and make myself feel better, has caused everyone involved nothing but upset.
I tried to make myself happy, I ruined it for everyone and made things exponentially worse.

Like I said I can only hope its the bubble burst, whereby I take a long look at myself in the mirror [maybe we'll skip the mirror looking] and get my life in order.
When i've spoken with my dad a lot has come out - and lot more than just my perception of myself/appearance - there multiple reasons for why i'm feeling like i have done for the past 2 bit years, and i've just focused on what I can see visually. If I can hide my face, I can hide my problems - incorrect because theres stuff I couldn't see, or maybe could see but didn't acknowledge/make sense of until now. Thats not me saying i've made sense of everything, far from it, its just I know what i've said today, and I said it with clearly with emotion and thought - in my opinion that doesn't happen unless its been waiting to be said.

Its been waiting for the water of a ducks back moment (I think thats the right phrase as i've used it twice now).

But yeah - thank you for being there and letting me type this mountain of thoughts, I just need to fix what I caused... god only knows how :(
Know you are upset and anxious mate about a friendship that you value and hopefully it can be repaired. As Chris says time can be a great healer and it will help if you as honest and upfront with your thoughts/motivations you described to everyone - and some good might come out of the latter as those around you are better able to understand you.

You are right to take responsibility for your actions and think how you’ll behave differently in future but please try not to beat yourself up too much.
 
Sounds to me like you were enjoying the day and lost track of time. The parents will be understandably mad out of worry. Hopefully they'll calm down and be a bit more forgiving in the future.
Try not to overanalyze the situation, all it will do is magnify the situation and your regrets beyond what is realistic.
Hope you sort this out. But be prepared to give it time.

We`ve all done daft things when young mate, don`t beat yourself up too much.

As @chrismpw says, I`m sure once everything settles down they`ll see it for what it was and everything will go back to normal.

Appreciate the replies :)

Whats making it worse is the fact I know I manipulated the situation.
I know he could have been returned home earlier had I not lied
My parents car did break down on the motorway (2ish)
They returned 5
We got the game after 6
I could easily have dropped him off at home - instead I left him with my mum
Sated the car was fixed around 8 ish I think

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My ballsing up of the train times doesn't alter the fact I caused it all just to spend more time with him.
Saying all that if he had stayed it may have come out in the end anyway as lies do.
Theres 'white lies' and then theres what i've just done which is take the absolute p*ss.

I don't know if I should approach the conversation with his parents - as far as they are concerned the previous bullsh*t reasoning i gave regarding the car is true.

When I'm typing this, I know how wrong and deceitful it was, but the flip-side will always be i'd have been sound had nothing panned out the way it did. So by that logic i'm only sorry because I got caught - not that i've been caught but more lose something. I think revealing I lied may tip what is already a crappy situation even further over.
But the truth needs to be said, I just don't know how - there is no opportunity with his parents as its basically adios don't see him again.
 
Appreciate the replies :)

Whats making it worse is the fact I know I manipulated the situation.
I know he could have been returned home earlier had I not lied
My parents car did break down on the motorway (2ish)
They returned 5
We got the game after 6
I could easily have dropped him off at home - instead I left him with my mum
Sated the car was fixed around 8 ish I think

---

My ballsing up of the train times doesn't alter the fact I caused it all just to spend more time with him.
Saying all that if he had stayed it may have come out in the end anyway as lies do.
Theres 'white lies' and then theres what i've just done which is take the absolute p*ss.

I don't know if I should approach the conversation with his parents - as far as they are concerned the previous bullsh*t reasoning i gave regarding the car is true.

When I'm typing this, I know how wrong and deceitful it was, but the flip-side will always be i'd have been sound had nothing panned out the way it did. So by that logic i'm only sorry because I got caught - not that i've been caught but more lose something. I think revealing I lied may tip what is already a crappy situation even further over.
But the truth needs to be said, I just don't know how - there is no opportunity with his parents as its basically adios don't see him again.

They were just frightened mate, now they`re angry.

Once the anger dies down, they`ll soften.

Apologise properly and I`m sure they`ll mellow given time x
 

Appreciate the replies :)

Whats making it worse is the fact I know I manipulated the situation.
I know he could have been returned home earlier had I not lied
My parents car did break down on the motorway (2ish)
They returned 5
We got the game after 6
I could easily have dropped him off at home - instead I left him with my mum
Sated the car was fixed around 8 ish I think

---

My ballsing up of the train times doesn't alter the fact I caused it all just to spend more time with him.
Saying all that if he had stayed it may have come out in the end anyway as lies do.
Theres 'white lies' and then theres what i've just done which is take the absolute p*ss.

I don't know if I should approach the conversation with his parents - as far as they are concerned the previous bullsh*t reasoning i gave regarding the car is true.

When I'm typing this, I know how wrong and deceitful it was, but the flip-side will always be i'd have been sound had nothing panned out the way it did. So by that logic i'm only sorry because I got caught - not that i've been caught but more lose something. I think revealing I lied may tip what is already a crappy situation even further over.
But the truth needs to be said, I just don't know how - there is no opportunity with his parents as its basically adios don't see him again.
I think you're being hard on yourself. I can't see you have committed and crimes. Ok you were being a bit cheeky and have upset a few people, but hopefully they'll get over that in time. We've all been there. Apologise, learn from it and move on.
 
They were just frightened mate, now they`re angry.

Once the anger dies down, they`ll soften.

Apologise properly and I`m sure they`ll mellow given time x

They've every right to be angry, and I can't condone my actions.

I know they've placed a lot of trust in me with him because of his conditions ADHD for one (don't like using the word conditions) and outside of me, he see's nobody.
He's school mates etc, but without opening a can of worms, it doesn't go any further then that for numerous reasons and perceptions of him being a 'pain in the arse' etc.
Us clicking at the wedding was something he's not experienced before, and similarly myself. I know I help him, and he in turn is helping me without even realising.
Whatever 'bond' [cheesy word] we have is more then that I have with my own brother - he's two sisters and is the oldest of the 3.
I know he looks up to me, and has levels of trust in me that exceeds most others - he's an amazing little dude and people just haven't given him the chance/time of day.

Woffle/side-tracking aside but because of his conditions there is always a cautious approach with him and very few get any time with him -- I know i've lost it.
And worst thing is the time i'm able to give him (footy, games etc) he won't/hasn't had from anyone else; his parents included.

I will apologise without question - how i go about it i'm not so sure.
 
(footy, games etc) I will apologise without question - how i go about it i'm not so sure.
Perhaps a letter mght work, that way you can organise your thoughts and explain what happened and how you feel? Always helps of course if they are accompanied by a bunch of flowers for the mum - a sincere, heartfelt letter and a nice bouquet have softened many a woman’s heart ;)
 
Perhaps a letter mght work, that way you can organise your thoughts and explain what happened and how you feel? Always helps of course if they are accompanied by a bunch of flowers for the mum - a sincere, heartfelt letter and a nice bouquet have softened many a woman’s heart ;)

I bear that tip in mind for the future ;)

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I've typed this up using a combination of what is on the forum and some additional thoughts.
Its difficult to portray emotion over message, but I know a call is out of the question seemingly.

On a side note I have spoken with my auntie whose daughter is the one i've pee'd off.
I've told my brother and my mate how i've been feeling - so it defiantly has been an eye-opening moment, but the consequence of which who knows.

----

The reality is since the wedding i've been able to be myself every so often with Owen. Prior to that I was literally hiding myself away and trying to deal with everything - for what is over 2 years now. How I see myself in the mirror is what hurts and I thought face masks etc can fix that, but its what I can't see thats been eating me up.

I know I haven't really be outgoing/myself for a while, and my offering of doing stuff with Owen is something I could not have imagined, but I offered and i'm glad I did.
I've said many a time I try to help people, and i've always known of the perception of Owen so I was even more inclined to act upon my word. Little did I realise having Owen as company has helped me. Its got me out the house more, i've enjoyed his company massively and its been some of the best times i've had since.

What happened when he was put into 'lockdown' recently -unknown to me at the time- instigated me falling into a shell again. Whereas previously I had nothing, now I would have had Owen as a routine (wrong word) and I didn't realise how much I missed him - be that in person or conversation. I hadn't left the house for 4 weeks, and throughout those weeks its been eating me because I wasn't going out.

As you know I eventually told my mum, because it was getting to me. I didn't feel right and I could pinpoint something more then me.

----------

Fast forward to yesterday/today: As you know I wanted him to stay but that wasn't allowable. By change of clothes he took a football kit - but I will be honest I was hopeful of a change in circumstance.

When the car broke down it was an opportunity to manipulate the situation. I've typed that now, and there is nothing about it that I can defend. Nothing. I've [Poor language removed] up and I'm a [Poor language removed].

The fact is I've confused even myself this time - which is hard considering i'm always right [humour to hide behind the realisation of what I caused]

Am I upset because i've lost what I had with Owen; without doubt. However I can't be that upset as I created a situation whereby I can lose everything, I created what has just happened. Can it be stupidity when you know what you are doing, I guess not. Instead i'm between a level of irresponsible, and [Poor language removed], and any other explicates you can think up.

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I don't know how to approach this segment of conversation

When I'm typing this, I know how wrong and deceitful it was, but the perceptional flip-side will always be i'd have been sound had nothing panned out the way it did [that may be true]. So by that logic i'm only sorry because I got caught - not that i've been caught but more lost something. I think the revelation I lied may tip what is already a crappy situation even further over.

But the truth needs to be said.

What happened yesterday was:
Car broke - 2ish
Mum, dad returned - 5 ish

I went the match with my dad (got there late)
Owen stayed at mine with my mum
We had something to eat - 9 ish

Replied to message from Tom and/or yourself stating we'll head off to the train.

Arrived at station and as much as I may not be believed (I brought it upon myself) I genuinely thought we had missed the last train. I would not have taken/sent a picture had I thought otherwise. My balling up of the train times doesn't alter the fact I caused it all just to spend more time with him.

-----------

Why would I attempt to manipulate the situation, honestly Nikki it because I feared I wouldn't see him again for weeks, and I was at breaking point with myself.

-----------

My only hope is from a negative situation of my causing, something good comes of it - i've spoken out to my dad and lot more openly then what I did with my mum.
I'm hurting inside, but thats a selfish viewpoint after what i've caused I deserve all thats coming my way.
That said my hurt has bubbled over, my issues have been spoken about and are now out in the open with my mum and dad.

I just need to fix this problem, I still need to fix my own fully, but I need this situation sorted.
Irrelevant of everything, me sorting myself out -which I've started by making calls to Lynn, Lee, and one of my mates- does not alter the fact i've got something with Owen that I don't want to loose.
I've done him no favours and i'm meant to be the responsible one - I feel like complete and utter [Poor language removed] with whats happened, but the get real situation is I caused it, look at the pain I must have caused. I'm a knobhead.

I was genuine in thinking i'd missed the last train - but behind that nope. What I caused and created was for my benefit, so I could enjoy myself again and not hide myself in my room. Its wrong, wrong, wrong what i've done - but i'm lost now with what I can do.

-----------

I can type and type, but it won't condense the 4 hour talk I had with my dad in the car on the way back - he had to stop multiple times.
I've finally burst the bubble i've been keeping myself in - so its had the outpouring of crying.

I can compose myself, I can type this, I can say things freely, so in my eyes this will be judged as being callous.

The irony is my t*t brains, has helped me - its created a situation and now i'm in the deep end and need to deal with it because I don't wanna loose him, and to deal with it, I need to deal with myself. It does just seem like a book of excuses, a thread of chatting lies to cover my own back and thats whats eating me up now.

Reality is, had nothing materialised the way it did today I'd not have said anything and just plodded along till the next time I saw him. I am well aware of my actions today, and that makes it 10x's worse. I didn't miss read the time on purpose, I always struggle with 24hr clocks for some odd reason, that just exaggerated the issue.

This looks like a post of 'I' this 'I' that - end of the day this was my doing and I feel like i'm making excuses for myself.
Its selfish. i've lied and its manipulative what i've done

There are no written or spoken words that I can express to rebuild any trust but I'd be stupid not to want to try.
I know this may not come over with any sincerity, but believe me when I say i'm sorry
 
I bear that tip in mind for the future ;)

------

I've typed this up using a combination of what is on the forum and some additional thoughts.
Its difficult to portray emotion over message, but I know a call is out of the question seemingly.

On a side note I have spoken with my auntie whose daughter is the one i've pee'd off.
I've told my brother and my mate how i've been feeling - so it defiantly has been an eye-opening moment, but the consequence of which who knows.

----

The reality is since the wedding i've been able to be myself every so often with Owen. Prior to that I was literally hiding myself away and trying to deal with everything - for what is over 2 years now. How I see myself in the mirror is what hurts and I thought face masks etc can fix that, but its what I can't see thats been eating me up.

I know I haven't really be outgoing/myself for a while, and my offering of doing stuff with Owen is something I could not have imagined, but I offered and i'm glad I did.
I've said many a time I try to help people, and i've always known of the perception of Owen so I was even more inclined to act upon my word. Little did I realise having Owen as company has helped me. Its got me out the house more, i've enjoyed his company massively and its been some of the best times i've had since.

What happened when he was put into 'lockdown' recently -unknown to me at the time- instigated me falling into a shell again. Whereas previously I had nothing, now I would have had Owen as a routine (wrong word) and I didn't realise how much I missed him - be that in person or conversation. I hadn't left the house for 4 weeks, and throughout those weeks its been eating me because I wasn't going out.

As you know I eventually told my mum, because it was getting to me. I didn't feel right and I could pinpoint something more then me.

----------

Fast forward to yesterday/today: As you know I wanted him to stay but that wasn't allowable. By change of clothes he took a football kit - but I will be honest I was hopeful of a change in circumstance.

When the car broke down it was an opportunity to manipulate the situation. I've typed that now, and there is nothing about it that I can defend. Nothing. I've [Poor language removed] up and I'm a [Poor language removed].

The fact is I've confused even myself this time - which is hard considering i'm always right [humour to hide behind the realisation of what I caused]

Am I upset because i've lost what I had with Owen; without doubt. However I can't be that upset as I created a situation whereby I can lose everything, I created what has just happened. Can it be stupidity when you know what you are doing, I guess not. Instead i'm between a level of irresponsible, and [Poor language removed], and any other explicates you can think up.

-----------

I don't know how to approach this segment of conversation

When I'm typing this, I know how wrong and deceitful it was, but the perceptional flip-side will always be i'd have been sound had nothing panned out the way it did [that may be true]. So by that logic i'm only sorry because I got caught - not that i've been caught but more lost something. I think the revelation I lied may tip what is already a crappy situation even further over.

But the truth needs to be said.

What happened yesterday was:
Car broke - 2ish
Mum, dad returned - 5 ish

I went the match with my dad (got there late)
Owen stayed at mine with my mum
We had something to eat - 9 ish

Replied to message from Tom and/or yourself stating we'll head off to the train.

Arrived at station and as much as I may not be believed (I brought it upon myself) I genuinely thought we had missed the last train. I would not have taken/sent a picture had I thought otherwise. My balling up of the train times doesn't alter the fact I caused it all just to spend more time with him.

-----------

Why would I attempt to manipulate the situation, honestly Nikki it because I feared I wouldn't see him again for weeks, and I was at breaking point with myself.

-----------

My only hope is from a negative situation of my causing, something good comes of it - i've spoken out to my dad and lot more openly then what I did with my mum.
I'm hurting inside, but thats a selfish viewpoint after what i've caused I deserve all thats coming my way.
That said my hurt has bubbled over, my issues have been spoken about and are now out in the open with my mum and dad.

I just need to fix this problem, I still need to fix my own fully, but I need this situation sorted.
Irrelevant of everything, me sorting myself out -which I've started by making calls to Lynn, Lee, and one of my mates- does not alter the fact i've got something with Owen that I don't want to loose.
I've done him no favours and i'm meant to be the responsible one - I feel like complete and utter [Poor language removed] with whats happened, but the get real situation is I caused it, look at the pain I must have caused. I'm a knobhead.

I was genuine in thinking i'd missed the last train - but behind that nope. What I caused and created was for my benefit, so I could enjoy myself again and not hide myself in my room. Its wrong, wrong, wrong what i've done - but i'm lost now with what I can do.

-----------

I can type and type, but it won't condense the 4 hour talk I had with my dad in the car on the way back - he had to stop multiple times.
I've finally burst the bubble i've been keeping myself in - so its had the outpouring of crying.

I can compose myself, I can type this, I can say things freely, so in my eyes this will be judged as being callous.

The irony is my t*t brains, has helped me - its created a situation and now i'm in the deep end and need to deal with it because I don't wanna loose him, and to deal with it, I need to deal with myself. It does just seem like a book of excuses, a thread of chatting lies to cover my own back and thats whats eating me up now.

Reality is, had nothing materialised the way it did today I'd not have said anything and just plodded along till the next time I saw him. I am well aware of my actions today, and that makes it 10x's worse. I didn't miss read the time on purpose, I always struggle with 24hr clocks for some odd reason, that just exaggerated the issue.

This looks like a post of 'I' this 'I' that - end of the day this was my doing and I feel like i'm making excuses for myself.
Its selfish. i've lied and its manipulative what i've done

There are no written or spoken words that I can express to rebuild any trust but I'd be stupid not to want to try.
I know this may not come over with any sincerity, but believe me when I say i'm sorry
If you are as eloquent with your apology, as you have been in that post mate, I`m sure they`ll see your sincerity and accept your apology.
 

Sorry of this is the wrong thread, I've no idea were to type it and the same time I've no idea why I'm typing it. But given this segement is an edit I've aready pressed the send button so yeah... No going back now.

This is difficult to type becuase it seems so petty and small compared to other peoples problems. Why I'm typing this I've no idea - I think I need to say something but I can't bring myself to do so.

I'm 25 in a weeks time and for over a year or so I've been struggling with my appearance. Pathetic I know. But the truth is I hate waking up in the morning and seeing my face covered in blotches and spots.

I willingly try to stay indoors as often as possible as I am conscious of others seeing. The silly thing is I know the majority of randomers in everyday life won't see me again, so I shouldn't give a toss - but I do.

I hate pictures getting taken so avoid, I don't meet with mates because I can't bring myself to.

The only person recently who I've made any effort with is my younger cousin. The September gone was my brothers wedding [I didn't want to go] and we just clicked. I've invited him round a faor few times and we've gone places etc. I feel with him I'm not getting judged, at the same time I know he lools up to me and I've responsibility with him.

On a mini tangent I wasn't aware at the time of the wedding he suffers with ADHD amongst other things, so it came as a total surprise to his mum and dad he connected with me. He's mates and such but nobody outside of that - and he's became like a little brother to me.

Odd to say the last 4 weeks he's gotten himself in trouble so he's been unable to stay over/speak with me and I'm rather lost.

Bringing the tangent back slightly I want to be a teacher yet have held myself back from interviews because I can't deal with it. Certain days are fine, others are horrible - it's just a continual cycle of crap.

I have tried creams, face masks, steam sauna things, light therapy, but it makes no odds.

When I'm out -going the match- I'm out and theres little I can do. But if its a bad day, I'll avoid the game if/and were possible.

I've no idea if my mum and dad suspect -unsure if right word- anything but I'm sure they do. I just can't bring myself to say anything as it really is stupid - but it's paining me up.

Why have I sent this today, no idea, but it may be time to get a realisation as I'm nearly 25 and I need to say something - I just don't know how.

I'll regret pressing send on this because once its on the internet, it's on the internet. At the same time I feel like a complete fool.



You didn't mention if you have been to your Doctor. My sister has had extreme skin issues for decades and just in the last couple of years there have been major advances in new treatments. The doctor will help.

You have recognized that it is affecting your life and have made the first efforts to deal with it, good for you!!
 
I need to stay the hell off Twitter. I'm tired and in loads of pain and the stupidest thing has pushed me to self-harm again. It was Liverpool, and seeing a friend of mine who DGAF about football but fancies Klopp liking pro-Liverpool stuff posted by one of the guys from Space, and Big Nev's tweet about how 'only first is good enough' and the realisation that it will never happen and that I may as well give up on Everton because we will never, ever come first.

And my stupid bloody colleagues cannot or will not accept that it is possible for a 34-year-old to have chronic pain. "Oh, everyone gets tired, it's not just you." "You're only a baby." It's like they think I'm being a stupid drama queen attention whore and it makes me wonder if I should seek help and if it's not all in my head. I went boot camp on Saturday and that, plus standing up for the Manics, has really hurt my legs and back. And I've been told I should keep doing boot camp because it'll get better, but I've done boxercise for 2-3 months, and it still hurts. My punches are stronger, but that's it.
Hi mate, don’t Ever get down about Everton, one day we will win something.
My wife and I have a 5 minute rule about the derby as she a red, I can moan for 5 minutes then I just let it go, maybe try that in general with Everton. I know we all love football and we all love Everton but Everton isn’t the be all and end all, it’s a past time.

As for the pain... in what was do you have the pain?
 
I bear that tip in mind for the future ;)

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I've typed this up using a combination of what is on the forum and some additional thoughts.
Its difficult to portray emotion over message, but I know a call is out of the question seemingly.

On a side note I have spoken with my auntie whose daughter is the one i've pee'd off.
I've told my brother and my mate how i've been feeling - so it defiantly has been an eye-opening moment, but the consequence of which who knows.

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The reality is since the wedding i've been able to be myself every so often with Owen. Prior to that I was literally hiding myself away and trying to deal with everything - for what is over 2 years now. How I see myself in the mirror is what hurts and I thought face masks etc can fix that, but its what I can't see thats been eating me up.

I know I haven't really be outgoing/myself for a while, and my offering of doing stuff with Owen is something I could not have imagined, but I offered and i'm glad I did.
I've said many a time I try to help people, and i've always known of the perception of Owen so I was even more inclined to act upon my word. Little did I realise having Owen as company has helped me. Its got me out the house more, i've enjoyed his company massively and its been some of the best times i've had since.

What happened when he was put into 'lockdown' recently -unknown to me at the time- instigated me falling into a shell again. Whereas previously I had nothing, now I would have had Owen as a routine (wrong word) and I didn't realise how much I missed him - be that in person or conversation. I hadn't left the house for 4 weeks, and throughout those weeks its been eating me because I wasn't going out.

As you know I eventually told my mum, because it was getting to me. I didn't feel right and I could pinpoint something more then me.

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Fast forward to yesterday/today: As you know I wanted him to stay but that wasn't allowable. By change of clothes he took a football kit - but I will be honest I was hopeful of a change in circumstance.

When the car broke down it was an opportunity to manipulate the situation. I've typed that now, and there is nothing about it that I can defend. Nothing. I've [Poor language removed] up and I'm a [Poor language removed].

The fact is I've confused even myself this time - which is hard considering i'm always right [humour to hide behind the realisation of what I caused]

Am I upset because i've lost what I had with Owen; without doubt. However I can't be that upset as I created a situation whereby I can lose everything, I created what has just happened. Can it be stupidity when you know what you are doing, I guess not. Instead i'm between a level of irresponsible, and [Poor language removed], and any other explicates you can think up.

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I don't know how to approach this segment of conversation

When I'm typing this, I know how wrong and deceitful it was, but the perceptional flip-side will always be i'd have been sound had nothing panned out the way it did [that may be true]. So by that logic i'm only sorry because I got caught - not that i've been caught but more lost something. I think the revelation I lied may tip what is already a crappy situation even further over.

But the truth needs to be said.

What happened yesterday was:
Car broke - 2ish
Mum, dad returned - 5 ish

I went the match with my dad (got there late)
Owen stayed at mine with my mum
We had something to eat - 9 ish

Replied to message from Tom and/or yourself stating we'll head off to the train.

Arrived at station and as much as I may not be believed (I brought it upon myself) I genuinely thought we had missed the last train. I would not have taken/sent a picture had I thought otherwise. My balling up of the train times doesn't alter the fact I caused it all just to spend more time with him.

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Why would I attempt to manipulate the situation, honestly Nikki it because I feared I wouldn't see him again for weeks, and I was at breaking point with myself.

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My only hope is from a negative situation of my causing, something good comes of it - i've spoken out to my dad and lot more openly then what I did with my mum.
I'm hurting inside, but thats a selfish viewpoint after what i've caused I deserve all thats coming my way.
That said my hurt has bubbled over, my issues have been spoken about and are now out in the open with my mum and dad.

I just need to fix this problem, I still need to fix my own fully, but I need this situation sorted.
Irrelevant of everything, me sorting myself out -which I've started by making calls to Lynn, Lee, and one of my mates- does not alter the fact i've got something with Owen that I don't want to loose.
I've done him no favours and i'm meant to be the responsible one - I feel like complete and utter [Poor language removed] with whats happened, but the get real situation is I caused it, look at the pain I must have caused. I'm a knobhead.

I was genuine in thinking i'd missed the last train - but behind that nope. What I caused and created was for my benefit, so I could enjoy myself again and not hide myself in my room. Its wrong, wrong, wrong what i've done - but i'm lost now with what I can do.

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I can type and type, but it won't condense the 4 hour talk I had with my dad in the car on the way back - he had to stop multiple times.
I've finally burst the bubble i've been keeping myself in - so its had the outpouring of crying.

I can compose myself, I can type this, I can say things freely, so in my eyes this will be judged as being callous.

The irony is my t*t brains, has helped me - its created a situation and now i'm in the deep end and need to deal with it because I don't wanna loose him, and to deal with it, I need to deal with myself. It does just seem like a book of excuses, a thread of chatting lies to cover my own back and thats whats eating me up now.

Reality is, had nothing materialised the way it did today I'd not have said anything and just plodded along till the next time I saw him. I am well aware of my actions today, and that makes it 10x's worse. I didn't miss read the time on purpose, I always struggle with 24hr clocks for some odd reason, that just exaggerated the issue.

This looks like a post of 'I' this 'I' that - end of the day this was my doing and I feel like i'm making excuses for myself.
Its selfish. i've lied and its manipulative what i've done

There are no written or spoken words that I can express to rebuild any trust but I'd be stupid not to want to try.
I know this may not come over with any sincerity, but believe me when I say i'm sorry
I have received your PM message however you appear to have exercised your option to ‘lock’ the PM and prevent a private reply.

Are you entirely sure you want the posts removed?

I ask for a couple of reasons:

1/ your posts are perfectly relevant and are a prime example of a form of depression that can be treated by solving a situation

2/ people in this thread have responded brilliantly and it’s a good example of how this can and does work well, which brings me on to....

3/ several people have quoted your posts, so even if I remove your actual posts, the text would remain in others’ posts rendering it a futile effort. Unless I remove/edit all those too, which in all honesty would be a massive ball ache lol

Hope it all works out between you and your family mate, let the good folk in here know how it goes.
 
Sorry of this is the wrong thread, I've no idea were to type it and the same time I've no idea why I'm typing it. But given this segement is an edit I've aready pressed the send button so yeah... No going back now.

This is difficult to type becuase it seems so petty and small compared to other peoples problems. Why I'm typing this I've no idea - I think I need to say something but I can't bring myself to do so.

I'm 25 in a weeks time and for over a year or so I've been struggling with my appearance. Pathetic I know. But the truth is I hate waking up in the morning and seeing my face covered in blotches and spots.

I willingly try to stay indoors as often as possible as I am conscious of others seeing. The silly thing is I know the majority of randomers in everyday life won't see me again, so I shouldn't give a toss - but I do.

I hate pictures getting taken so avoid, I don't meet with mates because I can't bring myself to.

The only person recently who I've made any effort with is my younger cousin. The September gone was my brothers wedding [I didn't want to go] and we just clicked. I've invited him round a faor few times and we've gone places etc. I feel with him I'm not getting judged, at the same time I know he lools up to me and I've responsibility with him.

On a mini tangent I wasn't aware at the time of the wedding he suffers with ADHD amongst other things, so it came as a total surprise to his mum and dad he connected with me. He's mates and such but nobody outside of that - and he's became like a little brother to me.

Odd to say the last 4 weeks he's gotten himself in trouble so he's been unable to stay over/speak with me and I'm rather lost.

Bringing the tangent back slightly I want to be a teacher yet have held myself back from interviews because I can't deal with it. Certain days are fine, others are horrible - it's just a continual cycle of crap.

I have tried creams, face masks, steam sauna things, light therapy, but it makes no odds.

When I'm out -going the match- I'm out and theres little I can do. But if its a bad day, I'll avoid the game if/and were possible.

I've no idea if my mum and dad suspect -unsure if right word- anything but I'm sure they do. I just can't bring myself to say anything as it really is stupid - but it's paining me up.

Why have I sent this today, no idea, but it may be time to get a realisation as I'm nearly 25 and I need to say something - I just don't know how.

I'll regret pressing send on this because once its on the internet, it's on the internet. At the same time I feel like a complete fool.
Google accutane

Harsh med but its a mircale pill, gets worse before it gets better but clears them well

Try n push it through your gp but me personally i done me research and “self prescribed” where clear in about 2 3 months and hardly ever get any now

Obviously do research though as alot of side effects but they can be managed
 
Sorry of this is the wrong thread, I've no idea were to type it and the same time I've no idea why I'm typing it. But given this segement is an edit I've aready pressed the send button so yeah... No going back now.

This is difficult to type becuase it seems so petty and small compared to other peoples problems. Why I'm typing this I've no idea - I think I need to say something but I can't bring myself to do so.

I'm 25 in a weeks time and for over a year or so I've been struggling with my appearance. Pathetic I know. But the truth is I hate waking up in the morning and seeing my face covered in blotches and spots.

I willingly try to stay indoors as often as possible as I am conscious of others seeing. The silly thing is I know the majority of randomers in everyday life won't see me again, so I shouldn't give a toss - but I do.

I hate pictures getting taken so avoid, I don't meet with mates because I can't bring myself to.

The only person recently who I've made any effort with is my younger cousin. The September gone was my brothers wedding [I didn't want to go] and we just clicked. I've invited him round a faor few times and we've gone places etc. I feel with him I'm not getting judged, at the same time I know he lools up to me and I've responsibility with him.

On a mini tangent I wasn't aware at the time of the wedding he suffers with ADHD amongst other things, so it came as a total surprise to his mum and dad he connected with me. He's mates and such but nobody outside of that - and he's became like a little brother to me.

Odd to say the last 4 weeks he's gotten himself in trouble so he's been unable to stay over/speak with me and I'm rather lost.

Bringing the tangent back slightly I want to be a teacher yet have held myself back from interviews because I can't deal with it. Certain days are fine, others are horrible - it's just a continual cycle of crap.

I have tried creams, face masks, steam sauna things, light therapy, but it makes no odds.

When I'm out -going the match- I'm out and theres little I can do. But if its a bad day, I'll avoid the game if/and were possible.

I've no idea if my mum and dad suspect -unsure if right word- anything but I'm sure they do. I just can't bring myself to say anything as it really is stupid - but it's paining me up.

Why have I sent this today, no idea, but it may be time to get a realisation as I'm nearly 25 and I need to say something - I just don't know how.

I'll regret pressing send on this because once its on the internet, it's on the internet. At the same time I feel like a complete fool.

Definitely see the doctor about the skin issue. I used to have a problem with eczema, after trying about a million different creams and moisturisers I started using one called Aveeno and I've been pretty much fine since. It may work for you and it may not, but it's worth a go.

Good luck with everything mate.
 

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