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Jeez not sure I wanted to read that in my current state of mind. But I'm really confident I can beat it. I used coke to facilitate being able to drink more. Nuts when you think about it. It was great when I was in my 20s and 30s but hate myself now on the rare occasions I relapse

I'm always relieved that illegal drugs scare the bejesus out of me. Alcohol does everything I need in a drug, tamps down the social anxiety for a while, works gently on the inhibitions and is widely available in a variety of flavours and styles in a social setting. I'm also happy that, a decent whisky every now and then aside, spirits were never my jam.

Perhaps key to this though is, whilst I deffo drink more than I should, I have never drank to get drunk. It's just a lucky consequence of what I think is a habi rather than a problem.

You've made the first step of admitting there's an issuem which is more than my friend ever did. I've only known him for 3 years, but by all accounts he's been on this path for about 30.
 
The life you have after going through all the hell - and learning to manage yourself in a more natural way - will be worth the valleys you go through.
The good thing is, having gone 4 months without, then spending 2 weeks on it, I have seen the difference it makes to me mentally, which I'm hoping will be sufficient to get me through. I don't want to feel like this again tbh
 
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I'm always relieved that illegal drugs scare the bejesus out of me. Alcohol does everything I need in a drug, tamps down the social anxiety for a while, works gently on the inhibitions and is widely available in a variety of flavours and styles in a social setting. I'm also happy that, a decent whisky every now and then aside, spirits were never my jam.

Perhaps key to this though is, whilst I deffo drink more than I should, I have never drank to get drunk. It's just a lucky consequence of what I think is a habi rather than a problem.

You've made the first step of admitting there's an issuem which is more than my friend ever did. I've only known him for 3 years, but by all accounts he's been on this path for about 30.
Yeah there's definitely an issue. I have been told that I'm a genetic alcoholic. No idea if this exists but certainly runs through the family. Had a few tough times recently and confronting some childhood issues so try to block it out with booze. Was proud of myself up until two weeks ago. Anyway, that's in the past. I'm on the road to recovery and it feels good.
 
Yeah there's definitely an issue. I have been told that I'm a genetic alcoholic. No idea if this exists but certainly runs through the family. Had a few tough times recently and confronting some childhood issues so try to block it out with booze. Was proud of myself up until two weeks ago. Anyway, that's in the past. I'm on the road to recovery and it feels good.

Just thinking out loud mate, but what you`ve said made me think of Duff Mc Kagan, who was the drummer for Guns and Roses.

He was doing either ten bottles of wine or four pints of vodka a day and coke and he was apparently days from death, before going into rehab ( again ).

When he was in rehab he got into mountain biking as release ( the place was in the wilds ) and carried on when he got out and ended up remaining sober and becoming an accomplished hard core mountain biker.

I`m just thinking that due to the fact that you live in rural Spain, there must be a lot of outdoor stuff to do - cycling, walking, climbing, running etc.

Could something " outdoorsy " not be a release for you too.

I know that Mc Kagan states that he now gets his " high " from mountain biking and doesn`t need drugs / drink anymore.

As I keen trail runner and a long time sufferer with anxiety related problems, I completely agree with what he says.
 

Just thinking out loud mate, but what you`ve said made me think of Duff Mc Kagan, who was the drummer for Guns and Roses.

He was doing either ten bottles of wine or four pints of vodka a day and coke and he was apparently days from death, before going into rehab ( again ).

When he was in rehab he got into mountain biking as release ( the place was in the wilds ) and carried on when he got out and ended up remaining sober and becoming an accomplished hard core mountain biker.

I`m just thinking that due to the fact that you live in rural Spain, there must be a lot of outdoor stuff to do - cycling, walking, climbing, running etc.

Could something " outdoorsy " not be a release for you too.

I know that Mc Kagan states that he now gets his " high " from mountain biking and doesn`t need drugs / drink anymore.

As I keen trail runner and a long time sufferer with anxiety related problems, I completely agree with what he says.
Funnily enough mate I ran a half marathon about 3/4 years ago. I was training almost every day and didn't drink at all. Didn't feel like it. I definitely miss exercising daily so do want to get back into it. I've been thinking about a few things so I'll see how it goes. Cheers for your advice
 
Funnily enough mate I ran a half marathon about 3/4 years ago. I was training almost every day and didn't drink at all. Didn't feel like it. I definitely miss exercising daily so do want to get back into it. I've been thinking about a few things so I'll see how it goes. Cheers for your advice

That’s the thing, if you’re training you can’t really drink as it wrecks your training programme.

Why not enter a race in six months time, which will give you a goal and something to focus on ?
 
Funnily enough mate I ran a half marathon about 3/4 years ago. I was training almost every day and didn't drink at all. Didn't feel like it. I definitely miss exercising daily so do want to get back into it. I've been thinking about a few things so I'll see how it goes. Cheers for your advice
Even something like golf, that becomes an obsession once you start playing
 

I don't really know how to post this so I'll just have to say it directly. I've deliberated posting this for a while now and always clicked off so taking a lot to write this.

On New year's Eve I lost my nan. Around half 11 to be precise. I had no way of getting over there by the time I found out so all i can do is support my mum every step of the way. I'm not a person who really deals with emotions about anything, going the flat was a coping mechanism simply to have it all hit me. As you can probably expect I was close to her and essentially she helped raise me , all through my life I have memories.

The last week has been none stop with problems with everything , believe me I haven't had time to grieve or deal with it properly as a result. Plus still being normal for the family is a big thing for me. Can't have them see me upset , which I know isn't the right attitude but there you go.

Anyway, I went the bank with my mum to close it over today as my auntie was the nominated person to take money out for my nan whilst she was still alive. So she would take money out for her on her behalf when she asked and that only really was for shopping or going the pub with my mum on a Monday night. Nothing excessive bar a phone bill for about 20 quid. There was no card , it was simply a paying in book that she would take and withdraw each amount. Up until now she has always forgot to bring the book with her when she met up with my mum.

After over an hour in the bank after they couldn't find her account we found out 2 things. One was that sometime in the past she had changed the bank address to her own without telling anyone.

The second? She has been withdrawing every penny out the account for as long as we know. Even 12 months ago she was taking every penny out, she knew what went in and when it did so that meant more than one trip to the bank a week sometimes. We are talking thousands here , not just a few quid off the top like I thought it would be. My nan died with 160 pounds to her name.

To be honest I have no idea how to feel, about what to do. They is no money to get back from her as she would never have it to pay back. Plus why claim the money? It belonged to my nan only , noone has claim to it. The other side is criminal activity but my mum wouldn't want to send her sister to prison. So I have no idea what to do and the weight of the world is on my shoulders because it's going to have to be me to bring all this out . I'm not just losing my nan , I'm losing an aunt, uncle , cousins here.

Also for context , my auntie chose to go home drinking for new year after knowing her mum was dying. Didn't go to see her Christmas day in hospital . She did however go and take more money out the day she died, possibly even after knowing.

In total since my nan went into hospital she has taken out anywhere between 1000-1500 with my mum only seeing 300 for the funeral . She has withdrew for herself since my nan died 600 pounds , possibly more as the statement only went to friday and she let slip she has been yesterday even.

So yeah , sorry for the long post . I know there isn't an answer in all of this and it's an impossible situation. I just don't know how to feel knowing what's to come and then weight of it all on my shoulders now. even now I haven't got time to deal with anything and I have work to go back to next week so that's not going to be encouraging.

Sorry for the post
 
I don't really know how to post this so I'll just have to say it directly. I've deliberated posting this for a while now and always clicked off so taking a lot to write this.

On New year's Eve I lost my nan. Around half 11 to be precise. I had no way of getting over there by the time I found out so all i can do is support my mum every step of the way. I'm not a person who really deals with emotions about anything, going the flat was a coping mechanism simply to have it all hit me. As you can probably expect I was close to her and essentially she helped raise me , all through my life I have memories.

The last week has been none stop with problems with everything , believe me I haven't had time to grieve or deal with it properly as a result. Plus still being normal for the family is a big thing for me. Can't have them see me upset , which I know isn't the right attitude but there you go.

Anyway, I went the bank with my mum to close it over today as my auntie was the nominated person to take money out for my nan whilst she was still alive. So she would take money out for her on her behalf when she asked and that only really was for shopping or going the pub with my mum on a Monday night. Nothing excessive bar a phone bill for about 20 quid. There was no card , it was simply a paying in book that she would take and withdraw each amount. Up until now she has always forgot to bring the book with her when she met up with my mum.

After over an hour in the bank after they couldn't find her account we found out 2 things. One was that sometime in the past she had changed the bank address to her own without telling anyone.

The second? She has been withdrawing every penny out the account for as long as we know. Even 12 months ago she was taking every penny out, she knew what went in and when it did so that meant more than one trip to the bank a week sometimes. We are talking thousands here , not just a few quid off the top like I thought it would be. My nan died with 160 pounds to her name.

To be honest I have no idea how to feel, about what to do. They is no money to get back from her as she would never have it to pay back. Plus why claim the money? It belonged to my nan only , noone has claim to it. The other side is criminal activity but my mum wouldn't want to send her sister to prison. So I have no idea what to do and the weight of the world is on my shoulders because it's going to have to be me to bring all this out . I'm not just losing my nan , I'm losing an aunt, uncle , cousins here.

Also for context , my auntie chose to go home drinking for new year after knowing her mum was dying. Didn't go to see her Christmas day in hospital . She did however go and take more money out the day she died, possibly even after knowing.

In total since my nan went into hospital she has taken out anywhere between 1000-1500 with my mum only seeing 300 for the funeral . She has withdrew for herself since my nan died 600 pounds , possibly more as the statement only went to friday and she let slip she has been yesterday even.

So yeah , sorry for the long post . I know there isn't an answer in all of this and it's an impossible situation. I just don't know how to feel knowing what's to come and then weight of it all on my shoulders now. even now I haven't got time to deal with anything and I have work to go back to next week so that's not going to be encouraging.

Sorry for the post
Firstly don't apologise mate. Good to get it off you chest. I was really close to my nan who I lost 7 years ago. I still speak out loud to her and I sometimes swear I can see her in my little boy. She died of dementia which my dad is currently in a home for. I know how it ends and I stopped seeing my nan in the end because I couldn't bear to see her in her condition so I never got to say goodbye properly. I just hold on to the years of fantastic memories of her and she'll always be with me.

In regards your aunty, sounds awful what she's done. Are you able to talk to her and find out why and what she's done with the cash? On the face of it it sounds disgusting but I guess you never really know why people do these things. Guess your number one priority is for you and your mum to take care of each other.
 
I don't really know how to post this so I'll just have to say it directly. I've deliberated posting this for a while now and always clicked off so taking a lot to write this.

On New year's Eve I lost my nan. Around half 11 to be precise. I had no way of getting over there by the time I found out so all i can do is support my mum every step of the way. I'm not a person who really deals with emotions about anything, going the flat was a coping mechanism simply to have it all hit me. As you can probably expect I was close to her and essentially she helped raise me , all through my life I have memories.

The last week has been none stop with problems with everything , believe me I haven't had time to grieve or deal with it properly as a result. Plus still being normal for the family is a big thing for me. Can't have them see me upset , which I know isn't the right attitude but there you go.

Anyway, I went the bank with my mum to close it over today as my auntie was the nominated person to take money out for my nan whilst she was still alive. So she would take money out for her on her behalf when she asked and that only really was for shopping or going the pub with my mum on a Monday night. Nothing excessive bar a phone bill for about 20 quid. There was no card , it was simply a paying in book that she would take and withdraw each amount. Up until now she has always forgot to bring the book with her when she met up with my mum.

After over an hour in the bank after they couldn't find her account we found out 2 things. One was that sometime in the past she had changed the bank address to her own without telling anyone.

The second? She has been withdrawing every penny out the account for as long as we know. Even 12 months ago she was taking every penny out, she knew what went in and when it did so that meant more than one trip to the bank a week sometimes. We are talking thousands here , not just a few quid off the top like I thought it would be. My nan died with 160 pounds to her name.

To be honest I have no idea how to feel, about what to do. They is no money to get back from her as she would never have it to pay back. Plus why claim the money? It belonged to my nan only , noone has claim to it. The other side is criminal activity but my mum wouldn't want to send her sister to prison. So I have no idea what to do and the weight of the world is on my shoulders because it's going to have to be me to bring all this out . I'm not just losing my nan , I'm losing an aunt, uncle , cousins here.

Also for context , my auntie chose to go home drinking for new year after knowing her mum was dying. Didn't go to see her Christmas day in hospital . She did however go and take more money out the day she died, possibly even after knowing.

In total since my nan went into hospital she has taken out anywhere between 1000-1500 with my mum only seeing 300 for the funeral . She has withdrew for herself since my nan died 600 pounds , possibly more as the statement only went to friday and she let slip she has been yesterday even.

So yeah , sorry for the long post . I know there isn't an answer in all of this and it's an impossible situation. I just don't know how to feel knowing what's to come and then weight of it all on my shoulders now. even now I haven't got time to deal with anything and I have work to go back to next week so that's not going to be encouraging.

Sorry for the post
Just get the bizzies involved.
Will make you feel better.

Had similar, but keep the good memories good.
 
Just thinking out loud mate, but what you`ve said made me think of Duff Mc Kagan, who was the drummer for Guns and Roses.

He was doing either ten bottles of wine or four pints of vodka a day and coke and he was apparently days from death, before going into rehab ( again ).

When he was in rehab he got into mountain biking as release ( the place was in the wilds ) and carried on when he got out and ended up remaining sober and becoming an accomplished hard core mountain biker.

I`m just thinking that due to the fact that you live in rural Spain, there must be a lot of outdoor stuff to do - cycling, walking, climbing, running etc.

Could something " outdoorsy " not be a release for you too.

I know that Mc Kagan states that he now gets his " high " from mountain biking and doesn`t need drugs / drink anymore.

As I keen trail runner and a long time sufferer with anxiety related problems, I completely agree with what he says.

Duff was the bass player, but other than that good advice.

I always remember the story he told about drinking with Paul Westerberg from the Replacements. Westerberg was so drunk he fell asleep 2 minutes after snorting a huge line... the 80s, ladies and gents!
 

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