Does Charity Get In The Way Of Success?

[ForestBlue]

Is Suarez dressing as a nun now?

 

[Kylito]

The club desperately needs to be more ruthless. That doesn’t mean getting rid of EITC though or cutting back on charity work at all. It’s one of the few things the club does well.

Ex players getting coaching roles, Moshiri ringing up Jim White saying McCarthy is “family”, our captain going to make sure poor Sonny was ok after he did Gomes - all of that sort of over-sentimental feebleness needs binning off completely.

 

[daza_1973]

Everton - The happy prince of football.

 

[Marius57]

It's literally the one thing we are good at. Why take away the last shred of positivity at the club?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Should never have appointed dbb to the board , let alone chief executive. That's the problem here , we took the most successful part of the Everton image and asked them to run the least succesful without any experience in doing so. Winning a football match isn't like running a charity.

The sad part is , if we were to be run properly and brought success to the club football wise, it's the charity aspect that would make us so much better than anyone else.

We should be proud of what the charity does , however any cross over between the two is exclusively based around another poor appointment by the club owners.

 

[Steve EFC]

EITC does some great things for the community and that’s crucial at a time where the team is not engaging the supporters.
Therefore it’s the last part of the club that needs to change.
The success of EITC has no link to the lack of success on the pitch and are separately run.
Sorry but an odd suggestion in my opinion.

 

[DOMNOLAN]

They’re not affiliated with each other, they’re separate entities

 

[Black Belt Jones]

Should never have appointed dbb to the board , let alone chief executive. That's the problem here , we took the most successful part of the Everton image and asked them to run the least succesful without any experience in doing so. Winning a football match isn't like running a charity.

The sad part is , if we were to be run properly and brought success to the club football wise, it's the charity aspect that would make us so much better than anyone else.

We should be proud of what the charity does , however any cross over between the two is exclusively based around another poor appointment by the club owners.

Don't think there's anything wrong with recruiting a CEO from the charity sector - people take all sorts of paths in business and good is good.

It's probably a bad appointment just because it was an internal one and smacks of CBA laziness. Like we need a new CEO for our club in the highest profile sport on earth - shall we scour the globe for this person? Or Nah, let's ask the person sitting across the desk, she's pretty good.

Even an internal CEO appt can be fine - there are many high profile examples in massive companies. But given the club is run very poorly, it's a fair assumption that it was not fine.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Don't think there's anything wrong with recruiting a CEO from the charity sector - people take all sorts of paths in business and good is good.

It's probably a bad appointment just because it was an internal one and smacks of CBA laziness. Like we need a new CEO for our club in the highest profile sport on earth - shall we scour the globe for this person? Or Nah, let's ask the person sitting across the desk, she's pretty good.

Even an internal CEO appt can be fine - there are many high profile examples in massive companies. But given the club is run very poorly, it's a fair assumption that it was not fine.

What experience does she have in running s football club though? That's the point I was making, running a charity is nothing like running a football club.

If she was good at doing it then that would be a different thing!

We needed someone with experience in growing and expanding Everton FC and instead we got someone who's only experience is around Everton FC.

 

[Crestfallen]

We’re charitable on and off the pitch!

 

[JammyP]

Everton FC and Everton in The Community are two separate entities.

However we’ll EiTC performs shouldn’t impact on Everton FC.

At least one team is doing well

 

[Noble Savage]

No

We are just rubbish at football

We can all go through comparing the money raised and spent with the superb EiTC against its parent company performance in it's own business , financial and retail sectors but when looking at graphs , hearing from those working and advising the parent company and its sporting department this is all it comes down to .
We are crap . Charity has no bearing on it at all and it's absolutely preposterous to suggest that it has any significant impact on our sporting woes.
I know it's frustrating to see how well run EiTC is and all I feel is annoyed that the team isn't run like it or those other professionals dealing with BMD . Apart from those tea drinking scallys .

 

[Black Belt Jones]

What experience does she have in running s football club though? That's the point I was making, running a charity is nothing like running a football club.

If she was good at doing it then that would be a different thing!

We needed someone with experience in growing and expanding Everton FC and instead we got someone who's only experience is around Everton FC.

Is it nothing like it? If you looked at large charities, like the National Trust or CRUK, say, would you think those CEOs are limited to that particular sector? I doubt that tbh - they are running complex organisations that are 100% public facing.

The idea that we need a fitba man to run a fitba club is old school - that's the sort of thinking that gives us Duncan in the dugout because he 'knows' the club.

I have no idea what sort of job DBB is doing (like everyone else on this thread) - she might be the one beacon of quality standing strong against the deluge of Mosh mediocrity. Or she might be way over her head and just phoning it in. It's hard to say, but I agree for sure it's hard to have confidence in the appointment given the club's track record.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Is it nothing like it? If you looked at large charities, like the National Trust or CRUK, say, would you think those CEOs are limited to that particular sector? I doubt that tbh - they are running complex organisations that are 100% public facing.

The idea that we need a fitba man to run a fitba club is old school - that's the sort of thinking that gives us Duncan in the dugout because he 'knows' the club.

I have no idea what sort of job DBB is doing (like everyone else on this thread) - she might be the one beacon of quality standing strong against the deluge of Mosh mediocrity. Or she might be way over her head and just phoning it in. It's hard to say, but I agree for sure it's hard to have confidence in the appointment given the club's track record.

But it's a business now.

Charity is not a business in the same way buisness is. If you consider what the charity is and where it is located.

What has that got to do with brand? Selling a brand overseas? Increasing revenue, business deals in relation to other parties?

There isn't any comparison. She may be boss at managing money but the whole point is to make more money. Them lot are featured in movies and TV shows in America as part of the expansion of branding , apart from a times Square advert for the fella we couldn't get rid of quick enough , why aren't we expanding like that?

Everton charity is based locally. I can understand why people want former kopite CEOs when we look at what we have currently.

 

[Papa Shango]

Completely separate things and a football club is (or should be) a community thing anyway.

I hate us right now but I would hate to be one of those corporate monstrosity clubs more. Success at what cost?