MACCA75
Player Valuation: £70m
The lad is crap.
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The lad is crap.
orly
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Pedro, the question was "do you think DCL is better than Lukaku" and your head has completely come off your shoulders and you are posting nonsensical rants. Where has this Romelu FC stuff come from?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
He was there though. The run was made (for once) and he stole in ahead of the defenders with the GK just to beat. It was textbook attacking play up until the point he had to make contact with the ball.
I'm not disrespecting him or saying we should dismiss him. I'm saying he just does not have the instinct or execution abilities of the quality of striker we need at this club. He has to be off the bench only next season and competing with one other attacker (also brought in this summer) to get on the pitch. If we're protecting a lead, I;d have him on the pitch no problem in order to keep defenders occupied and the opposition going backwards. But he CANNOT make things happen in the 18 yard box.
He was nowhere near it and as soon as I can rewatch motd I will prove it with a picture, ZIP it now.
So the question becomes...can those be taught/learned? If so, is it learned on the training pitch or in matches? Is it dependent on player intelligence? If not, is he worth keeping on for other reasons?
I think they can be but it's a combination of intelligence and game time and that's the juggle.
AndyC
Player Valuation: £70m
Shearer and Wright on MotD said that DCL can learn to improve his movement and make better positions for himself and put defenders in two minds about where he'll be.
For me, the issue is can Ferguson actually teach him that when he himself was more of a battering ram type centre forward ?
In the Rom vs DCL debate I made the comment on how each is kinda missing what the other has... This is all just opinion obviously but, I actually think you generally want to play them both the same way, on the turn. I used to say it all the time about Rom and then Carragher went and did that video with him and there was Rom talking about shielding to play him in on the turn. I'd constantly see him position himself to do it and we'd never play the ball for him, generally because he was so damn far away from midfield.
They'd actually be a decent tandem together but Rom went and dug his grave so he could slow roll around California in the summer like a wanna-be thug and get noise ordinance violations in a neighborhood that wouldn't understand him, no matter how much money he's got...the big dummy.
You are a lukaku fanboy..... embarrassing. The lad had one foot out the door in all his time here and you pine for him like some acne riddled lovesick teenager constantly getting jibbed off by to some girl who isn't even that nice.
He's on the decline whilst a young lad in a blue shirt with less than 2000 minutes under his belt is the subject of your ridicule.
There is no point in comparing them... lukaku is one thing and that is a finisher against lesser teams. DCL is a better footballer and give a his teammates a better outlet.
Goalscoring cam be learned. Thierry Henry said so.... Jamie Vardy said he had to take time to learn how to make his efforts count again st better players. Harry Kane likewise.... practised shooting a lot.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
A still picture will prove nothing. We need a video or gif.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Shearer and Wright stated on MOTD that they can. Great scorers as they were, I still dont think they;re right.
At 22 the instinct is there or not. Lineker was thinking that way too by the way he asked the question.
I think you can drill a player to be in a position, yes. To execute a chance though requires composure and the ability to choose what comes next: a snapshot or a pause to allow a defender/GK to commit; a side foot or put your laces through it; go high or go low; take the GK on or slot before they're set.
You cant learn that.
Perfectly valid argument but I tend to think it can be learned if the player has the ability to learn from mistakes and gets the playing time to make them. This is where the viciousness of the business comes in to play, though. You're just not likely to get the game time at the top of pyramid unless you're somewhere like Palace, maybe...no disrespect to them. Which, now that I think about it, is where Wright really went on and broke through...shearer with Blackburn too, even though they had the Walker money back then it's not like they were perennials at the time and could afford to sit him for large lengths of time. Both of those were back when I was first getting heavily in to football so I could be way off.
Thierry Henry did and said so..... Jamie Vardy did too.... struggled when he got to Leicester. Had to learn how to finish against better goalkeepers.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Yep, the game has changed d=since then. You need to be doing it immediately as cash is available to move you on quickly.
Howver, on the evidence I see I dont belive there's the raw material to advance the lad. He looks like a modern day attacker who is athletic but not much more. No guile. File away in the James Vaughan / Anichebe draw.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
They had the predatory instinct in them.
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