2018/19 Dominic Calvert-Lewin

[blueblue]

And how long until this 'learning' starts showing? He's 22 and far, far off those you've named. Harry Kane was prolific at 21. Vardy was 27 when he got 20+ PL goals in a season, and Leicester signed him after he banged in 31 in one season in the national league, so he already showed he could score and just needed to adapt to better defenders.
Dom's highest tally is SIX. He has never looked capable of being a high goal scorer, in any league. Trust me, I'd love it if he was. But as an Everton fan I don't want to stew in mid-table mediocrity with a striker incapable of striking while we hold onto this belief that he will somehow 'learn' it.

We need a striker who can score. He isn't that.

I didn't see MOTD last night but apparently Alan Shearewr was talking about DCL and also said that goalscoring can be learned. It seems that he feels DCL can add goals to his other attributes.

 

[pedro1976]

That is the crux of the argument, though. Can we really afford to wait and see if we want to be challeging for silverware?

Havent said don't buy another striker..... buy one and sell tosun and niasse. DCL needs time and more importantly support.

 

[pedro1976]

I'd sooner paste stuff like this meme boy... sourced 442 magazine

"Thierry Henry knew something needed to change. His decision was made – that morning he would go into Arsene Wenger’s office at London Colney and tell his manager that he didn’t want to be a striker anymore.
Nobody would have minded anyway; not the fans who’d been disappointed with the 22-year-old’s first months at Arsenal, and least of all Henry himself, his confidence shot to bits after a tough start to life in north London. Patrick Vieira was teasing him about his profligacy, but deep down it hurt.
Besides: he was a winger, wasn’t he? Coltish, graceful, direct – it suited his style. It was where he’d played for Monaco with success; for France at the 1998 World Cup – where he top scored for his country – and then for Juventus. That’s just how everyone knew him, and how he too recognised himself. "

 

[nsno-chris]

I'd sooner paste stuff like this meme boy... sourced 442 magazine

"Thierry Henry knew something needed to change. His decision was made – that morning he would go into Arsene Wenger’s office at London Colney and tell his manager that he didn’t want to be a striker anymore.
Nobody would have minded anyway; not the fans who’d been disappointed with the 22-year-old’s first months at Arsenal, and least of all Henry himself, his confidence shot to bits after a tough start to life in north London. Patrick Vieira was teasing him about his profligacy, but deep down it hurt.
Besides: he was a winger, wasn’t he? Coltish, graceful, direct – it suited his style. It was where he’d played for Monaco with success; for France at the 1998 World Cup – where he top scored for his country – and then for Juventus. That’s just how everyone knew him, and how he too recognised himself. "

 

[pedro1976]

And another meme when proven wrong.... again.

 

[nsno-chris]

And another meme when proven wrong.... again.

 

[FTY]

He’ll be sound

2 more games and then he’s our backup/impact sub

Does need to learn how to stick it in the net tho, by the end of next season

 

[Tel001]

Callum Wilson vice DCL Tel?

What?

 

[Tel001]

None

Is the correct answer

 

[Tel001]

Dominic Cowardly-Lion

Dominic Continuous Letdown

 

[Tel001]

No no, just so we are clear please - are you claiming DCL is better than Lukaku?

Apparently DCL is a Darren bent ,Dennis bergkamp hybrid

 

[Tel001]

Shearer and Wright on MotD said that DCL can learn to improve his movement and make better positions for himself and put defenders in two minds about where he'll be.
For me, the issue is can Ferguson actually teach him that when he himself was more of a battering ram type centre forward ?

learning to put defenders In Two minds doesn’t actually change the fact that he cannot kick the ball into the goal. His 1-1 yesterday showed all that I needed. The bounce done the defenders, he was clean through, took a bad touch , got the ball trapped under his feet, then hit a tame pee roller straight at the middle of the goal.

 

[billyblue80]

He was there though. The run was made (for once) and he stole in ahead of the defenders with the GK just to beat. It was textbook attacking play up until the point he had to make contact with the ball.

I'm not disrespecting him or saying we should dismiss him. I'm saying he just does not have the instinct or execution abilities of the quality of striker we need at this club. He has to be off the bench only next season and competing with one other attacker (also brought in this summer) to get on the pitch. If we're protecting a lead, I;d have him on the pitch no problem in order to keep defenders occupied and the opposition going backwards. But he CANNOT make things happen in the 18 yard box.

I'd argue we need two strikers. DCL as just one of three options rotating.

 

[Zatara]

Remember we were tenuously linked before with Jiminez and in typical GOT fashion the experts decreed he wasn't good enough for Everton.

To be fair most people didnt think he was worth his 60m release clause considering he scored 2 goals in his last 2 seasons.

Lets see how he gets on next season before we call him the Mexican Bobby L.

Personally dont even think hes better than DCL. My take is that he gets a lot of chances at wolves and scores more but the rest of his game isnt as good.

Lets see next season...

Shearer and Wright stated on MOTD that they can. Great scorers as they were, I still dont think they;re right.

At 22 the instinct is there or not. Lineker was thinking that way too by the way he asked the question.

I think you can drill a player to be in a position, yes. To execute a chance though requires composure and the ability to choose what comes next: a snapshot or a pause to allow a defender/GK to commit; a side foot or put your laces through it; go high or go low; take the GK on or slot before they're set.

You cant learn that.

Thierry Henry did and said so..... Jamie Vardy did too.... struggled when he got to Leicester. Had to learn how to finish against better goalkeepers.

Yep, the game has changed d=since then. You need to be doing it immediately as cash is available to move you on quickly.

Howver, on the evidence I see I dont belive there's the raw material to advance the lad. He looks like a modern day attacker who is athletic but not much more. No guile. File away in the James Vaughan / Anichebe draw.

They had the predatory instinct in them.

I didn't see MOTD last night but apparently Alan Shearewr was talking about DCL and also said that goalscoring can be learned. It seems that he feels DCL can add goals to his other attributes.

I'd sooner paste stuff like this meme boy... sourced 442 magazine

"Thierry Henry knew something needed to change. His decision was made – that morning he would go into Arsene Wenger’s office at London Colney and tell his manager that he didn’t want to be a striker anymore.
Nobody would have minded anyway; not the fans who’d been disappointed with the 22-year-old’s first months at Arsenal, and least of all Henry himself, his confidence shot to bits after a tough start to life in north London. Patrick Vieira was teasing him about his profligacy, but deep down it hurt.
Besides: he was a winger, wasn’t he? Coltish, graceful, direct – it suited his style. It was where he’d played for Monaco with success; for France at the 1998 World Cup – where he top scored for his country – and then for Juventus. That’s just how everyone knew him, and how he too recognised himself. "

I dont think comparisons with leading goalscorers are too helpful

However im a bit lost on how a (just turned) 22 year old cant improve one single area of his game.

 

[Jayhow15]

What?

Would. You. Have. Callum. Wilson. Vice. DCL??

Not sure I could explain it any simpler.