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2022/23 Dominic Calvert-Lewin

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...and yet we get wins without him as the other players simply take it on their shoulders to get a goal or create a chance or be there for a chance.

Let's have this right: a fit Calvert-Lewin had ONE good season...and only then when the whole team were knocking in crosses for him every minute of the game.

He's limited; he's vulnerable to injury; he's unfocussed...and he's surplus to requirements for any PL club that wish to stay a PL club.
And yet the 2 seasons hes been injured we have fought relegation.

How mads dat.
 
I’m not sure you’ve understood my point at all.

I can absolutely understand wanting to sell him.

But you need a buyer to sell a player.

If we’re throwing him arbitrarily into the Spurs match regardless of his fitness, as you suggest, then we’re running the risk of further reducing the enthusiasm of any would-be suitors.

Not only that, but Dominic Calvert-Lewin could very well struggle to find a contract as good as he’s on now if he’s perceived to be a massive injury risk. So where’s his motivation to leave in that circumstance?

I’m not sure why people think it’s trivial to sell a player that can’t stay fit.
I did not say he should be thrown arbitrarily into the Spurs match at all. I said if he isn't ready for Spurs, then perhaps it is time to accept he won't be ready this season, or if he does make it back that his reintegration into the side may be more disruptive than it's worth at this late stage. That said, a fully fit and ready Calvert-Lewin would be a boon. I suspect Dyche has a timeline in mind - perhaps it is the Spurs match. I suspect he has made a decision to bring him back then, if he appears to be ready. If that is Dyche's judgement and he breaks down yet again, well...

Whether we sell him or not, however, is moot. If Dyche doesn't think he can rely on him next season - or if the player himself fails to recapture regular fitness - then he simply won't play - for anyone. We may simply have to write him off. Whether we do or don't, the club needs to plan for the worst. We certainly didn't this season even though the dogs on the street were barking at them to...
 
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How much bigger do you want him?

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Like looking in the mirror.
 
It's not a matter of what my ideal of masculinity is ( in my view it's an outmoded concept ). However I don't think the below would work quite as well if Dom was built like a tank, with bulging thighs and calves. And obviously building muscle is how you compensate for specific areas of weakness after injury.


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And by the way, I like this picture a lot; to the extent that it is provocative it's good art, Dom just looks cool in it and it breaks down barriers. However, I just wonder whether his leanness is beneficial to his injury recovery.
He's actually bulked up over the last few seasons. Which coincide with his injury problems.
 
I did not say he should be thrown arbitrarily into the Spurs match at all. I said if he isn't ready for Spurs, then perhaps it is time to accept he won't be ready this season, or if he does make it back that his reintegration into the side may be more disruptive than it's worth at this late stage. That said, a fully fit and ready Calvert-Lewin would be a boon. I suspect Dyche has a timeline in mind - perhaps it is the Spurs match. I suspect he has made a decision to bring him back then, if he appears to be ready. If that is Dyche's judgement and he breaks down yet again, well...

Whether we sell him or not, however, is moot. If Dyche doesn't think he can rely on him next season - or if the player himself fails to recapture regular fitness - then he simply won't play - for anyone. We may simply have to write him off. Whether we do or don't, the club needs to plan for the worst. We certainly didn't this season even though the dogs on the street were barking at them to...
You literally said "bring him back for Spurs. If he breaks down again then, it's time to finally accept that he must be moved on or out."

That's an arbitrary game you've set as target to put him back in the team, without any respect for his fitness at that time.
 

You literally said "bring him back for Spurs.If he breaks down again then, it's time to finally accept that he must be moved on or out."

That's an arbitrary game you've set as target to put him back, without any respect for his fitness at that time.
I said: "Dyche needs to make a call here - and probably already has: bring him back for Spurs. If he breaks down again then, it's time to finally accept that he must be moved on or out."

I was surmising that the manager has probably decided on the game to bring him back for. I suspect, given the calendar, that that would not be our next game, but the one with the longer lead-in time: Spurs.

My point was that if the manager picks a game for the player to come back in - Spurs or whichever one he deems right - and if the player then breaks down once more, then it is time to move on.

In the interests of clarity, I don't care what game the manager picks. But I do care that we have players that we can rely on in this existential fight. And at some point, the manager needs to determine who he can rely on, if only to give those players as much certainty as possible.

There is obviously no point in rushing an injured player back. That is no good to anyone. So, here's hoping the manager picks the right game - because this saga is helping absolutely nobody at this point.
 
I said: "Dyche needs to make a call here - and probably already has: bring him back for Spurs. If he breaks down again then, it's time to finally accept that he must be moved on or out."

I was surmising that the manager has probably decided on the game to bring him back for. I suspect, given the calendar, that that would not be our next game, but the one with the longer lead-in time: Spurs.

My point was that if the manager picks a game for the player to come back in - Spurs or whichever one he deems right - and if the player then breaks down once more, then it is time to move on.

In the interests of clarity, I don't care what game the manager picks. But I do care that we have players that we can rely on in this existential fight. And at some point, the manager needs to determine who he can rely on, if only to give those players as much certainty as possible.

There is obviously no point in rushing an injured player back. That is no good to anyone. So, here's hoping the manager picks the right game - because this saga is helping absolutely nobody at this point.
Okay, I'm pleased you agree - because honestly that original post was not clear.

Yes, if DCL is declared fully fit, and he plays and gets injured immediately, then that's the biggest sign you can have that he's finished.

But even then, I'm not sure what we could reasonably do. We won't be able to sell him.

I think patience until he comes good, or waiting until his contract expires are probably our only 2 options.
 
And yet the 2 seasons hes been injured we have fought relegation.

How mads dat.
Because we've been operating with 1 striker and then zero strikers.

The utter claptrap you and the other worshippers of the Emperor's new clothes come up with.

You're ridiculous.

The lad is a disinterested crock and he's taking the utter piss out of you.
 

We need him, it's as simple as that.
No matter what theories fans may have Regarding his Absence.
He is really our only out and out striker.
We are fighting for are premiership survival.
So it's a pretty stupid opinion yo say he is not needed.
Whether we keep him, going forward. Is a different matter.
But the only thing that matters now is being above 3 teams come end of season.
And dom can and would make that more of a possibility.

The only thing I would say is if we are doing well before he gets back then I wouldn't throw him straight in and possibly break up a good balance we've built.
But he would be a great asset to bring on and change a tactic and game plan.
And then let dyche make that call on starting him/or not...

It's always better to have the option then not.
 
Okay, I'm pleased you agree - because honestly that original post was not clear.

Yes, if Dominic Calvert-Lewin is declared fully fit, and he plays and gets injured immediately, then that's the biggest sign you can have that he's finished.

But even then, I'm not sure what we could reasonably do. We won't be able to sell him.

I think patience until he comes good, or waiting until his contract expires are probably our only 2 options.
Yes, they are our only options, but one thing that I refuse to do - even though I have a degree in economics - is to think in purely financial terms when it comes to discussing sport. It's one of the worst things about modern football. Everybody is a financial analyst. While it is obvious that the club will lose money if an "asset" is out of commission, I just want the club to accept that we must have a plan B for any player - and especially players with the history of Calvert-Lewin. Otherwise, we will be in the very same situation next season, in all likelihood. And I really don't see Dyche persevering if he thinks he's got a lost cause on his hands. Sometimes, you simply got to take the hit, move on, and mitigate the damage as best you can.
 

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