2022/23 Dominic Calvert-Lewin

[Colonel Getafe]

Were you saying that when we beat Arsenal 1-0 & he led the line brilliantly? Unfortunately, he is now injured because Lampard felt a 50% Dominic Calvert-Lewin was good enough - Dyche sees now it differently ...... he has stated he has to get 100% fit no risks ....

I've been saying it for about 2 years actually, because it's been the same story every time. Like I said, he has some decent attributes if you use them, but it's nowhere near enough return for me. If "that one time" DCL did something for sixty/seventy minutes is enough for you, have at it, but for me he's increasingly more of a passenger than a carrier.

The current manager pointing the finger at the last manager for his injury problems is a common theme. If the last 3 managers have had to accomodate his injuryprone self then the sensible thing to do would be move him on as soon as possible and bring in strikers who can be relied upon to play 30+ games and score 15+ goals, instead of putting all our eggs in the basket of a guy who had a purple patch two years ago.

 

[davek]

He & Richy were our main goal threat & you dont want to use him in the relegation run in - not great logic - Dave - if he gets match fit he is a must at no 9, so someone can hold the ball up & stop 2nd half barrages like yesterday by linking the midfield unit up the pitch - Gray has done very well - but does not win the balls in the air or have the body strength for a number 9 - I agree he has to be 100% fit though, the reason why Dyche has sidelined him for such reason. Not one game here & there etc ....

That's all in theory. What we get in reality is a 60 minute performance followed by 8 games out.

It cant be seen as a plus for any team to have to constantly rejig its line up like that. It;'s disruptive and exactly what we need to avoid.

 

[Joey66]

That's all in theory. What we get in reality is a 60 minute performance followed by 8 games out.

It cant be seen as a plus for any team to have to constantly rejig its line up like that. It;'s disruptive and exactly what we need to avoid.

Dave we have players who cost a fortune who are not fit play yet get a place on the bench ?

 

[Joey66]

I've been saying it for about 2 years actually, because it's been the same story every time. Like I said, he has some decent attributes if you use them, but it's nowhere near enough return for me. If "that one time" Dominic Calvert-Lewin did something for sixty/seventy minutes is enough for you, have at it, but for me he's increasingly more of a passenger than a carrier.

The current manager pointing the finger at the last manager for his injury problems is a common theme. If the last 3 managers have had to accomodate his injuryprone self then the sensible thing to do would be move him on as soon as possible and bring in strikers who can be relied upon to play 30+ games and score 15+ goals, instead of putting all our eggs in the basket of a guy who had a purple patch two years ago.

That's poor logic imo - he is the only class no 9 that we have on our books ATM ....

 

[APN_EFC]

How much bigger do you want him?

yeah but he painted all that on remember?

 

[APN_EFC]

That's poor logic imo - he is the only class no 9 that we have on our books ATM ....

In addition, I think he's definitely one of those players - and there's nothing wrong with this - who plays better with better coaching, teamwork and strategy around him. he has suffered, like a few junior & senior players we've had in the last 7 years, because of the lurch from Koeman-Silva-Allardyce-Ancelotti-Benitez-Lampard-...
I mean come on just look at that. Imagine you're any of the players signed by Koeman or Silva and you're still here, or a young player like him and Davies - there's no chance you can know what you're doing. Having said that - simplicity that we developed with Ancelotti benefited him, and we might get that with Dyche .

 

[allen]

We may have to cut our losses with this fella, sadly. His injury appears to be baffling successive management teams. There does not appear to be an obvious physical issue. The Spurs match is not even our next match - it is weeks away. If the player cannot be available by then, we obviously have little choice but to rely on those who are available. After that, I'd be wary of upsetting the available players to shoehorn Calvert-Lewin back into the side when he finally does become available. I don't think a relegation battle is the best time for integrating the returning wounded, but that'll be for the manager.

Whether we stay up or go down, the club simply has to have striking alternatives next season. Any player can get injured and any player can become unavailable for other reasons. No fault there. But the club simply cannot delude itself that it is mitigating that risk to the best of its ability. We now know - and we already did, really - that Calvert-Lewin is delicate. We have no excuse whatsoever.

I’m not sure you’ve understood my point at all.

I can absolutely understand wanting to sell him.

But you need a buyer to sell a player.

If we’re throwing him arbitrarily into the Spurs match regardless of his fitness, as you suggest, then we’re running the risk of further reducing the enthusiasm of any would-be suitors.

Not only that, but DCL could very well struggle to find a contract as good as he’s on now if he’s perceived to be a massive injury risk. So where’s his motivation to leave in that circumstance?

I’m not sure why people think it’s trivial to sell a player that can’t stay fit.

 

[Colonel Getafe]

That's poor logic imo - he is the only class no 9 that we have on our books ATM ....

He's our best center forward option when fit - I don't think anyone would disagree with that, but that says as much about what the piddle poor alternatives are as it is a testament to DCL.

To say a guy who averages a goal about every four games, doesn't get into double figures, and has a total of about 60 career goals at almost 26 years old is 'class' is hyperbole and way off the mark.

 

[Nymzee]

Someone who's expected to be the recipient of an out ball being replaced by another. Yes.

Christ, you know so little about football it’s actually mind boggling.

 

[Joey66]

He's our best center forward option when fit - I don't think anyone would disagree with that, but that says as much about what the piddle poor alternatives are as it is a testament to Dominic Calvert-Lewin.

To say a guy who averages a goal about every four games, doesn't get into double figures, and has a total of about 60 career goals at almost 26 years old is 'class' is hyperbole and way off the mark.

Your so wrong it would be a great boost to have him in the relegation run in .....

 

[Tylard]

Your so wrong it would be a great boost to have him in the relegation run in .....

We're talking such fine margins this season between going down and staying up. DCL in there ahead of Maupay should add 3-4 goals which could/should turn into 4-5 points and the difference of staying up. Every little bit from this side is desperately needed.

 

[Colonel Getafe]

Your so wrong it would be a great boost to have him in the relegation run in .....

I never said it would be a hindrance to have him available for the run in (I literally just said he's our best CF option when available). If I'm so wrong about DCL not being 'class' then I'd love to know how would you describe Halaand or Mbappe or Kane or Lewandowski or Benzema or any striker who gets 25+ goals every year; or any striker who can do better than 1 in 4, or has more than 60 goals at age 26. That says average to me, not class.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

Needs a suitable partner; we've been way too reliant on him, whether playing or not. Might be why the Abraham rumour has surfaced, I hope.

 

[witchdoc187]

This is a real timely boost and a big one too. Fingers crossed he can stay fit for the rest of the season

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

...and yet we get wins without him as the other players simply take it on their shoulders to get a goal or create a chance or be there for a chance.

Let's have this right: a fit Calvert-Lewin had ONE good season...and only then when the whole team were knocking in crosses for him every minute of the game.

He's limited; he's vulnerable to injury; he's unfocussed...and he's surplus to requirements for any PL club that wish to stay a PL club.

Classic Davek