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Drenthe ..sacked ?

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At that folks is the end of Entertaining Football at Goodison.

Normal reception will soon be resumed with that old favourite Hibbert at Full-back, Neville still doing a job in midfield and a one-man forward line.

And 24/7 to you too.
 
everton try to keep it in house which to some degreee is correct, drenthe has been a liability as much as he has had an impact
hes disrespected the club breached rules time and time again good riddance , i cant believe that dogpiss will get him to change if moyes and the chosen one cannot at madrid didnt do it , is he going to get more game time over the road i think not the guys a time bomb , theres no room for him at goodison in my opinion get shut a.s.a.p
 
Sorry, but the reputation of the manager is damaged here.

It's alright saying 'incremental' and three strikes and you're out...but what way is that to run a club when the emphasis has always been on cohesion and discipline and teamwork? Somehow I cant really see Victor turning up constantly late for training, frigging off and coming back late from the continent and having a quiet word with another club and then being given the leeway this feller apparently had. And that goes for any other player at the club.

There's two possibilities here: either the extent of Drenthe's misdemeanours has been wildly exaggerated and Moyes just gave a warning then got rid...and he hasn't been seriously talking to Liverpool and that they were maybe pursuing him (unlikely for the most part given what LCAB has said) - in which case you can get your head around why he lasted so long...

..or

...Moyes has given this feller license to do things he'd afford no other player (and the fact he was on loan or on contract makes **** all difference to that, btw) in which case he's just stored up trouble for the future over discipline matters and it's incredible he'd allow him to last that long to do that.

Let's get away from the black and white. There is none to be had here...just all hands coming up smelling a bit shitty. If we can accept that there's not much else to ebate. I just get the impression though that Moyes has to be painted as completely the wronged and innocent party here. He's not.
 

It says more about the values and respect that Everton has compared to so many other clubs. Look at Man City, how many second chances is Mancini giving. They can actually afford to sack players because they can bring whoever they want in for cover. We don't have that luxury and we still pissed him off...This is a club I want to support, a club that actually upholds its values.
 
davek said:
...whoa! I think that is a huge admission that the manager acted with zero principle all along here. Suddenly the 'no one is bigger than the club' defence looks a bit threadbare.

How on earth can we have a manager who accepts that a player is negotiating with our nearest rivals at Christmas and brings him on for the Derby match at Anfield in March?

Probably one of the most incredible moments in Merseyside football history we have unfolding here.
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Again, totally agree Davek.

I expressed the opinion early in the thread that if RS have been tapping up Drenthe it's going to cause a lot of bad blood between the RS. RS fans are going to be laughing their arses off because, in a roundabout way, Drenthe and the backroom RS staff have gone a long way to costing us a Cup Final place. But again, Moyes should have still kept him on the bench as an option, and sent him packing AFTER the match.
 
Saliba said:
It says more about the values and respect that Everton has compared to so many other clubs. Look at Man City, how many second chances is Mancini giving. They can actually afford to sack players because they can bring whoever they want in for cover. We don't have that luxury and we still pissed him off...This is a club I want to support, a club that actually upholds its values.
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That's the issue though mate: he was given umpteen chances when he shouldn't have been.
 
davek said:
That's the issue though mate: he was given umpteen chances when he shouldn't have been.
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Just saying, I'd rather Moyes piss him off straight away, rather than bull**** to us about how he's tarnished the club etc etc only to bring him back. I'm so over this argument.
 

I happen to believe that Liverpool are a much bigger club and who wouldn't want to play in front of the kop on those famous European nights.


Discuss.
 
EFCNIK said:
I happen to believe that Liverpool are a much bigger club and who wouldn't want to play in front of the kop on those famous European nights.


Discuss.
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Nah lad, there isn't a bigger club on merseyside than ours. Don't let the gimmicks of the ****e fool you.
 
neil999 said:
i dont mind him going as long as we get someone exciting in (Ahem) pienaar donovan etc are great, but drenthe had that x factor quality- raw pace,a great shot from distance AND unpredictability(sometimes to his detriment) its the first player we have had like this since limpar/kanchelskis

WHEN will we get another??
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EXACTLY. I totally agree with your analysis. THIS ^^^^^ is why so many people on here are upset about what's happened. A prick off the field it seems, but exciting as fcuk on it. A guy that would bring the crowds through the gates. We haven't got anyone on the roster that can do that like Drenthe, if we get Pienaar signed that will be a start, but imo Drenthe was quicker and more skilfull in a man-on-man situation than Pienaar. People like Drenthe are matchwinners.

I'm not saying we should have signed him, obviously his off the pitch antics are unacceptable, but it's gonna hurt bad if he goes to RS for me, because regardless of what people on here say i think he'll be a success there. Meanwhile, Moyes needs to desperately look for someone with Drenthe's on the pitch talents during the summer, and with our limited funds i'm not going to hold my breath.

Yet another example of RS getting one up on us if that deal goes through.
 
davek said:
Sorry, but the reputation of the manager is damaged here.

It's alright saying 'incremental' and three strikes and you're out...but what way is that to run a club when the emphasis has always been on cohesion and discipline and teamwork? Somehow I cant really see Victor turning up constantly late for training, frigging off and coming back late from the continent and having a quiet word with another club and then being given the leeway this feller apparently had. And that goes for any other player at the club.

There's two possibilities here: either the extent of Drenthe's misdemeanours has been wildly exaggerated and Moyes just gave a warning then got rid...and he hasn't been seriously talking to Liverpool and that they were maybe pursuing him (unlikely for the most part given what LCAB has said) - in which case you can get your head around why he lasted so long...

..or

...Moyes has given this feller license to do things he'd afford no other player (and the fact he was on loan or on contract makes **** all difference to that, btw) in which case he's just stored up trouble for the future over discipline matters and it's incredible he'd allow him to last that long to do that.

Let's get away from the black and white. There is none to be had here...just all hands coming up smelling a bit shitty. If we can accept that there's not much else to ebate. I just get the impression though that Moyes has to be painted as completely the wronged and innocent party here. He's not.
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Hits fists on Desk ... A LOT ..

Bangs Head - Along with Fists On Desk ... A LOT ...

Hard tho ....



Haha ...

Whatever , Mucka ...
 
Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian said:
IF he shows his mug on the bench at home, then any attempt to warm up will be met with some straight questions.

I have a feeling that I'll be telling him to take off our shirt as we dont want him in it any more.

someone may even chuck him a rag to put on. stick him on the bench to face the music Moyes, they're a vociferous bunch down by St. Lukes.
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As i've said before, if he EVER plays for us again now i will totally lose all respect for Moyes.
 

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