dyche thinks

[efcste97]

I didn’t believe anyone could do better with the resources we had under Moshiri and I still don’t mate. We weren’t an attractive proposition until after the takeover. Moyes certainly was coming back here until TFG came back in and present him with a project - and as above he wasn’t a popular choice on here. A lot of bandwagon jumping going on.

But after what 6/7 managers in the same or less years I wanted stability and continuity and I have great respect for what he did in his first 18 months.

I’m a huge fan boy of Moyes and made up he’s here - but I think we were always staying up really this season.

But we move on! I’m grateful for the job Dyxhe and what Moyes is doing. Honestly can’t wrap my head around anyone coming up with anything different to that.

I mentioned this yesterday - Dyche did a great job, and honestly, I was expecting more of the same this season, especially since he got us to 12th without the points deduction.

I can’t see how anyone who watched us this season could argue for sticking with Dyche though - especially when we were just one point above the drop and nearly every measurable stat took a serious nosedive. All the signs where there, sticking with him would've been a major major risk

 

[Neiler]

I mentioned this yesterday - Dyche did a great job, and honestly, I was expecting more of the same this season, especially since he got us to 12th without the points deduction.

I can’t see how anyone who watched us this season could argue for sticking with Dyche though - especially when we were just one point above the drop and nearly every measurable stat took a serious nosedive. All the signs where there, sticking with him would've been a major major risk

That's fair mate, i agree i think he failed the audition this season, we would have moved on in June anyway.

I think we would have stayed up any way personally - isnt there some stat that even if he got 0 point between now and when he left wed still be out of the relegation places - i think we would have maintained the point a game over the rest of the season.

Lets not forget he wasn't fired - he more or less left - so there were obviously structural benefits to keeping him and why TFG wanted to - personally i believe his position became untenable for a couple of reasons and said as much before he left the club - if i was him id have walked away as well.

I guess the question is what are we achieving now - nothing really - wel go up a place of two maybe - we enjoy Goodsion coming to an end and a break from a relegation battle and ease of fears and anxieties - but really we are marking games off and its a bounce season really. Maybe that's enough or there is value in getting Moyes feet under the table early - but im not sure its a kick in the backside to where we have been - we've started to draw many games again - which seems to be this teams mean - will we get close to topping the 48 points from last season..............we might!

 

[Harryflashman]

I mentioned this yesterday - Dyche did a great job, and honestly, I was expecting more of the same this season, especially since he got us to 12th without the points deduction.

I can’t see how anyone who watched us this season could argue for sticking with Dyche though - especially when we were just one point above the drop and nearly every measurable stat took a serious nosedive. All the signs where there, sticking with him would've been a major major risk

My view is pretty similar to yours , however listening to him peddle a provable lie that was used to hurt the fan base isn’t a great way to maintain any limited credit in the bank .

 

[Osamabindiesel]

In his defense, I think our fans get a bit rowdy and aggressive. Officials often state Goodison as the most intimidating venue to officiate, so it lines up somewhat with what he is saying. He is a massive tit mind. It's something I hope changes when we start winning

 

[Frenk]

DYCHE THINKS……

Does he?

 

[MikeH72]

In his defense, I think our fans get a bit rowdy and aggressive. Officials often state Goodison as the most intimidating venue to officiate, so it lines up somewhat with what he is saying. He is a massive tit mind. It's something I hope changes when we start winning

He has claimed there were threats made against board members two weeks before he joined the club. That’s not the same as saying we get a bit rowdy sometimes.

Personally I think someone should push him on the specifics of what he’s said as it’s potentially defaming to the fanbase. Where’s he got his information from to make such a dangerous accusation? Maybe his acolytes in here can help.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

He has claimed there were threats made against board members two weeks before he joined the club. That’s not the same as saying we get a bit rowdy sometimes.

Personally I think someone should push him on the specifics of what he’s said as it’s potentially defaming to the fanbase.

Agreed. I think the job was too big for him and he got paranoid. I believe he believes what he is saying though. If that makes sense.

 

[MikeH72]

Agreed. I think the job was too big for him and he got paranoid. I believe he believes what he is saying though. If that makes sense.

If he believes there were threats made against the board then he should’ve reported it to the police at the time as it’s a criminal offence.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

If he believes there were threats made against the board then he should’ve reported it to the police at the time as it’s a criminal offence.

If you are a public figure, there will be death threats against you no matter where you end up. He should have reported it to the police. But when you hear things like that all the time it is easy to just brush off. I doubt anybody actually threatened him in the way he believes though. Probably making mountains out of molehills

 

[Harryflashman]

In his defense, I think our fans get a bit rowdy and aggressive. Officials often state Goodison as the most intimidating venue to officiate, so it lines up somewhat with what he is saying. He is a massive tit mind. It's something I hope changes when we start winning

That is not what he was saying, I’ve just watched him perpetuate a proven lie .

Joke

 

[MikeH72]

If you are a public figure, there will be death threats against you no matter where you end up. He should have reported it to the police. But when you hear things like that all the time it is easy to just brush off. I doubt anybody actually threatened him in the way he believes though. Probably making mountains out of molehills

Or maybe they just didn’t happen and the board lied.

 

[Toffeepot]

Evertonians absolutely love lambasting our players about this sort of stuff. It’s just now for some they’re claiming it bad form to do so because they disliked the manager more than that

Only because he's saying he could handle it which he clearly couldn't. He was talking about us as if we were Burnley continuously

 

[Toffeepot]

It’s just interpretation Michael. You’re reading one thing one way, other people will read it the other.

Your hatred runs so deep that you’ll only ever see the one side though. Sometimes you just have to give people the benefit of the doubt

In the overall picture do I think Sean Dyche backed the old board vs the fans? No.

He's clearly backing the old board v the fans by saying 'legend' sharpey and 'all kinds of threats'

The alternative would be 'the fans were wound up having just been wrongfully accused of attacking and threatening board members'

 

[EFCPaul]

I don't have a problem with anything he said. In fact I don't think he really said much at all of interest.

The stuff about the fans and the board, he's just repeating what he was told by those charlatans who took us to the brink. He never had any sort of personal relationship with the fanbase, therefore he's not going to know the real facts of the story. That narrative about threats and them being forced to stay away is what the wider football world, of which he's part of, thinks is what happened.

Don't get angry at him, get angry at the vile people who invented that despicable lie in the first place and pushed it hard those first few days. The supposed "greatest Evertonian", little Miss Dynamite and Sharp the bootlicker.

 

[MikeH72]

I don't have a problem with anything he said. In fact I don't think he really said much at all of interest.

The stuff about the fans and the board, he's just repeating what he was told by those charlatans who took us to the brink. He never had any sort of personal relationship with the fanbase, therefore he's not going to know the real facts of the story. That narrative about threats and them being forced to stay away is what the wider football world, of which he's part of, thinks is what happened.

Don't get angry at him, get angry at the vile people who invented that despicable lie in the first place and pushed it hard those first few days. The supposed "greatest Evertonian", little Miss Dynamite and Sharp the bootlicker.

You mean the people who he’s literally just namechecked and said weren’t able to attend games due to threats made by fans? If they were pushing a lie, then so is he right now.

Other people like Ian Wright have come out and apologised to the fans for being misled. The police have said that there were no reports of threats made. So stop defending him and making excuses. We have the facts now, and he’s continuing to dig up old lies and push them back out into the public.