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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2

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....went for my Racing Post this morning and 2 women were in conversation;

Woman 1; “getting me flag and banner for me house today. Did you see that homecoming parade for City?”

Woman 2: “ye, there was nobody there. That’s because their support is from all over, they’re not like us, we’re all proper scousers”.

Women 1:”and they’re being reported for racism”.
 
Big Fat Sam said:
If I were a Liverpool fan I'd be more worried about a club coming in for Mane than Salah. Mane has so much more to his game than Salah. Fortunately for them, though, Salah's reputation is better and he'd fetch a much higher transfer fee, which they could then invest back into the side.
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I hope they don’t sell either of them. They’ll get £200m and buy a replacement just as good or better, along with 3 other players and still be financially better off. The one person we need them to lose is Klopp, not arsed about a single player.
 

Saint Domingo said:
I don’t want either to leave. They’re both playing at their absolute max, they can’t get any better, it’s more likely that they won’t have as good a season next year. Salah has already failed to hit the heights of last season.

I want their big players to get stuck on mega contracts with Liverpool unable to shift them on. As soon as either of them lose a yard of pace they’ll be practically worthless. What we dont want is for what happened with Coutinho where they got a huge fee for him and got to reinvest it in first team players.

We need this team to keep missing out and get to a scenario where the owners can’t afford to buy without selling a mega star but the stars have declined to the point no one wants them for big money.
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100 percent, the media put them on the same level as Messi, won't be long before they will be on 250 thousand a week each.
 
Eggs said:
....went for my Racing Post this morning and 2 women were in conversation;

Woman 1; “getting me flag and banner for me house today. Did you see that homecoming parade for City?”

Woman 2: “ye, there was nobody there. That’s because their support is from all over, they’re not like us, we’re all proper scousers”.

Women 1:”and they’re being reported for racism”.
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Yes just what's to be expected really, total delusion.
 

Just caught a snippet of John Barnes on Talk Sport, he had me in tears. Went something along the lines of 'even if Tottenham beat them in Madrid, while they wont have won a trophy, what an incredible journey they've had. Trophies are just for fans, everyone at the club will know it's been the best season ever for Liverpool!'
Yes John, better than the treble winning seasons of Paisley and Benitez etc. Winning nothing with 97 points is hurting them badly, they'll bang on about it for years.
 
blue61 said:
Just caught a snippet of John Barnes on Talk Sport, he had me in tears. Went something along the lines of 'even if Tottenham beat them in Madrid, while they wont have won a trophy, what an incredible journey they've had. Trophies are just for fans, everyone at the club will know it's been the best season ever for Liverpool!'
Yes John, better than the treble winning seasons of Paisley and Benitez etc. Winning nothing with 97 points is hurting them badly, they'll bang on about it for years.
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The carry on has been incredible. There's been more buzz around the runners up than there has been the winners.

I feel like it falls upon us to set the set the record straight and remind everyone they lost the league at Goodison Park, I'm sure we will duely oblige at every opportunity.
 
catcherintherye said:
I think this makes some sense to be honest, however counter intuitive it sounds. In many ways the real force behind their resurgence and "success" is Michael Edwards, who to be fair has shown an incredible ability to pinpoint players in the £30-£70 million pounds bracket.

It's easy to say, if you are spending those figures you should expect as much, but compare his hit rate to say Manchester United, or Chelsea or even Arsenal. To me they would be very dangerous if they had another £150 million to spend but be minus one of the two aforementioned.

Look at Coutinho too. I know it's not exact like this (as you could say they signed Keita and Fabinho with the lower and much more likely end of the fee) but selling him allowed them to bring in Virgil Van Dijk and Alisson. I am not sure they sign either if they didn't sell Coutinho. I think they look at £75 million for a centre half as exorbitant and £70 for what had been a bit of an erratic goalkeeper as being too much. However given they got £100 million + for Coutinho it allowed for the purse strings to be loosened a bit.

You also have to look at the ages of said players, I think there front 3 are now what, 27-28 years of age. They are probably past their peak years now.

We had a similar dilemma (albeit on a much smaller scale) with Moyes. We didn't move enough players on.
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Firmino 27, Mane 27 & Salah 27 next month.
While i would say this scenario would fit best, Liverpool unfortunatly over the last 3/4 years have been very savy in the transfer market and that includes when to sell.
Another hope of mine was the players would get a Dortmund style Klopp burnout, just like what happened to Hummels, Sahin, Reus, Bender, the 2 full backs, Kagawa & Gotze. They all fatigued so much constant injuries occured and some have took years to get back to the players they were while some havent even returned to that.
Looking at how over his years at Liverpool Klopp has gradually improved problems that have arrose in previous seasons (set piece defending- get van dijk & allison, christmas period - use shaqiri over that period at a small fee and play a less intence game), he seems to spot the flaws and fix them.
I wonder if firmino's latest knocks and niggles are a start to this or just a rare occurance (i cant think of to many players out for a long time with muscle injurys this season), and if it is they may look at shifting firmino before he starts to regress. They could easily get PSG or someone to play 100m+ for him
 

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