ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2

[degsy]

Trouble is, you just can't argue with followers of the rs.
Most other fans can accept things as they are and can hold together a cogent discussion.
But the rs? Truly a different species altogether.

Aye, very true. You can always tell a kopite - but not much...and as my sig. used to say
rs, you always get exactly what it says on the tin.

 

[degsy]

Defensively poor. Buy VVD and Allison. Mark of a managerial genius.

Its not exactly a stroke of genius though is it...you've a poor defence and keeper, so you go out and buy replacements More like big money manager 101.

 

[dannyboy]

This is whole City are ruining football with the money is definitely the chosen form of attack for them right now. It´s all I´ve heard this week. The same boring line repeated by the same pub bores who cannot face the fact they got 97 points and still didn´t win the title. No one will ever beat them fairly.

I still laugh every single time I think of the hours they wasted on Facebook/Twitter calling Ramos every single name under the sun. All whilst he was sat on the beach with his Champions League medal oblivious to it all.

 

[Westend Blue]

I'm reading that RAWK Man City thread genuinely with my jaw hitting the floor. They actually have succeeded in kidding themselves that the whole world now sees Man City's retention of the title last week as illegitimate and that Liverpool are the true champions. It's astounding. There's denial, then there's there's that.

The associated argument that's doing the rounds on RAWK is that City's successes dont mean anything to anyone outside City fans because "everyone expects it, shrugs and takes no notice". And "it means more for everyone in football" when Liverpool win a trophy.

This is what happens when a fan base is indulged for decades. It's an infantile disorder.

City have legitimate income streams now. They might of flaunted the rules during the mark Hughes days. But they don’t have a bloated squad anymore all of there players are paid accordingly and I’m sure they are the third highest wage spenders

 

[dannyboy]

Liverpool leading fight to secure more money from international television deal

There will be a fresh attempt by the Premier League’s big clubs to grab a larger share of the money generated by the sale of international television rights at a meeting later this week, according to Liverpool owner John Henry.

www.telegraph.co.uk

Ha ha ha it was only last year their owners were on the march to try and swindle most of the league out of TV money.

None of these arguments about City are in the interest of fairness. It's all because they can't handle there are better teams than them.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

An apologist?. What on earth are you talking about?. You’re paranoid.

My point is, the person who made that banner, trivializing Heysel and the deaths of 39 people, to wind up Evertonians, may not even have been alive in 1985 and therefore likely not to fully appreciate just how incredibly sad and tragic that day was.

It's not just Everton you hurt, a lot of clubs were hurt by that european ban.For what it's worth though, i still think the AC Milan side of 89/90 would have wiped the floor with you.So thank your lucky stars, that they didn't get a hold of you! Porto in 87 you might have beaten.But that Milan side no way.

 

[deipnosophist]

Our CEO does great work in the community though.

That Denise whatshername is our CEO, speaks loudly to Everton’s entirely underwhelming ambition. We are a bit of a ‘touchy, feely’ outfit...and hence our soft underbelly.
Farhad the carpetbagger needs to show a bit more fibre...more testosterone.

 

[sheedy3]

That Denise whatshername is our CEO, speaks loudly to Everton’s entirely underwhelming ambition. We are a bit of a ‘touchy, feely’ outfit...and hence our soft underbelly.
Farhad the carpetbagger needs to show a bit more fibre...more testosterone.

More testosterone is whats got us in to the mess in the first place...Peter Johnson etc

 

[deipnosophist]

More testosterone is whats got us in to the mess in the first place...Peter Johnson etc

Men eating soy is what is causing a lot of the world’s issues...it’s not all about polar bears and shrinking ice floes, Sheeds...

 

[Yarrgh]

An apologist?. What on earth are you talking about?. You’re paranoid.

My point is, the person who made that banner, trivializing Heysel and the deaths of 39 people, to wind up Evertonians, may not even have been alive in 1985 and therefore likely not to fully appreciate just how incredibly sad and tragic that day was.

Do I detect a wobble? It's like witnessing Salah getting Ramossed again. lol

 

[Amw79]

Mate, give it a rest. Tell you what, I’ll just stick you on ignore.

Telling that this is the first post I’ve ever made to you, and the fact that you’ve spat your dummy out immediately on being called out tells a story.

See you in the next derby thread, I guess.

 

[Raino85]

Most of there first 11 never went deep in the World Cup. They only had 2 starters in the World Cup QF’s and that was the keeper who went out that round and Lovren who barely played this season with injuries.

Most of there first 11 were home resting or couldn’t get a game.

Henderson?

 

[pedro1976]

An apologist?. What on earth are you talking about?. You’re paranoid.

My point is, the person who made that banner, trivializing Heysel and the deaths of 39 people, to wind up Evertonians, may not even have been alive in 1985 and therefore likely not to fully appreciate just how incredibly sad and tragic that day was.

"The person"..... there were about 10 fans minimum holding it up. There were other fans posting pictures of it like it's something to be proud of.

Let's reverse the scenario.... if Juventus fans had pushed the wall onto Liverpool fans and as a result Verona (who won the league in 1985) were banned from playing in the European cup and had Juve Fans goading them with "bucharest 86" flags there would be an outrage.

Whether that "person" was alive in 85 or not - you didn't need to be alive. 39 fans never came back from a football match... Liverpool fully well understand the pain of families who have lost someone who went to watch a game of football. Using a tragedy as a means of point scoring over rival fans is a disgrace.

 

[marmor]

Watched the cup final with in laws and their extended RS family. Usually all reasonable Koppites and go the game each week. Never ever seen them so bitter towards anyone but Man U until today. If losing the league is making usually sane people go mad it’s got to be biting everyone one of them badly. Even ended up arguing w mother in law who started chirping on about City and FFP. Showed her the facts. Reminded her of hundreds of millions wasted on Can, Lallana, Carroll, Lambert, Acquillani etc etc. And then City score their 6th.

Had a very near similar experience. Only difference is they started shouting louder and louder, which they obviously thinks makes them more correct. Shouting led to aggression of course.
I presented facts as well but they won’t have it.
These are very mild mannered people, nearly 70, and don’t usually bother with football.

Weird, strange behaviour & I really believed they were exempt from the cult.
This title loss cuts deeper than they realise and I fkin love it.

 

[Raino85]

There were people saying Liverpool should have been given the title because it's the 30th anniversary of Hillsborough. Sake. Bradford City lost fans in a fire, but they didn't expect to be automatically promoted a couple of seasons ago.

Also, as has been said a lot here, randomly throwing around JFT96 really cheapens what that slogan is about. Like, someone randomly posted JFT96 in a thread about Barcelona and I asked wtf Barcelona had to do with Hillsborough.

May be a little controversial opinion and it may just be me labeling the whole fanbase but............
Hillsbrough, how much longer do we need to hear about it?
I mean the familys have got there trials, the minute they won the familys asked to not do a rememberence service at anfield anymore as they wanted to begin to put it behind them.
We have minutes silences on the radio for it 30 years on but the same people shouting loudest about hillsbrough and the 96 couldnt care less about any other tragedy that has happened over that time, its purely based on what football club it involved.
It gets brought up as a tool to use to either play the marter or to take the moral high ground over something wether it was hillsbrough intended or not.
The types of people that do not couldnt care less about the 96, its just used as a badge of honour and a look at me symbol.

Over the years gradually there must of been 60, 000 reds at hillsbrough the amount that say they were there.

I was 4 in 89 so to young to remember it, but i had family members who were at the norwich semi, and they had mates who were at hillsbrough (genuinly), and at the time it f%$*ed them up, but none of them harp on about it now, they just remember it in there own little way, probably exactly the same how anyone remembers a loved one who they have lost, they dont go shouting to the roof tops about it.

What the familys have been through and fought for is inspiring, but there are certain people (and im trying not to generalise a fanbase as there are plenty of ace reds out there who dont) who use it as a badge which sullys the name of everythibg they have bern through